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Diving While Under Medication

Post Number:#1  Postby John F SeaDemon » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:36 pm

What's the concensus on diving on medication? We know that the ones that make you sleepy is a no-no. But with the increase in urban illnesses, what about those on statins? Zocor, Lipitor, Zytorin? Viagra? Will the increase in pressure have any effect on these medicines?
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Re: Diving While Under Medication

Post Number:#2  Postby divedoc » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:54 pm

Actually, i do not know of the concensus on diving on medication, because i know of many divers, including diving doctors, who dive while on medication(s)!!!

You have to take into account what kind of illnesses for which the medication is given. Statins such as Zocor, or Lipitor is not contraindicated is prescribed for hyperlipidaemia, unless it is use in combination with antihypertensives, as uncontrolled hypertensives are strictly advised against diving.

Drugs that alter consciousness or alter decision-making abilities such as tranquilizers, narcotics, anti-depressants are a contraindication to diving (u know why!!!)

The medications used to treat or control these urban illnesses do have some effects under pressure. However, one musn't just consider the type of medications used, rather the illnesses that for which the medication is given. Which is why it is advisable to see a doctor (not just any doctor, a dive doctor, mind u!!) before you venture into the deep...
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Re: Diving While Under Medication

Post Number:#3  Postby John F SeaDemon » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:03 am

Cool. What about Aspirin? Aspirin thins out the blood. As a layperson (someone who gets laid often), would taking Aspirin cause Nitrogen bubbles to be easily transported to virtually all parts of the body?

That's a problem I don't have. I'm allergic to NSAID...which could be bad if, touch wood, I have a heart problem.
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Re: Diving While Under Medication

Post Number:#4  Postby orcastyl » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:15 am

Aspirin works as antiplatelets, and platelets are utilized during normal blood clotting mechanisms. Although commonly described as 'thining out the blood', it however does not makes the blood more diluted (if i were to put it in lay terms) and hence does not increase the ease of nitrogen transport.
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Re: Diving While Under Medication

Post Number:#5  Postby divedoc » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:02 am

Cool. What about Aspirin? Aspirin thins out the blood. As a layperson (someone who gets laid often), would taking Aspirin cause Nitrogen bubbles to be easily transported to virtually all parts of the body?

That's a problem I don't have. I'm allergic to NSAID...which could be bad if, touch wood, I have a heart problem.


Alamak, SeaDemon brader, are u on Aspirin?? Aspirin can be used for minor pains, headaches and fever medications, and in your case, heart problem. Aspirin, other than it thins out the blood, it also causes stomach upset, which can develop into gastrointestinal bleeding. And i'm sure u do not want that on one of your diving trips!!! And if one gets a barotrauma (e.g sinus barotrauma), the tendency to bleed is higher than compared to someone not on Aspirin...Aspirin however, does not increase the ease of nitrogen transport.

You hae a heart problem?? Problem apa bro??
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Re: Diving While Under Medication

Post Number:#6  Postby John F SeaDemon » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:14 am

Cool. What about Aspirin? Aspirin thins out the blood. As a layperson (someone who gets laid often), would taking Aspirin cause Nitrogen bubbles to be easily transported to virtually all parts of the body?

That's a problem I don't have. I'm allergic to NSAID...which could be bad if, touch wood, I have a heart problem.


Alamak, SeaDemon brader, are u on Aspirin?? Aspirin can be used for minor pains, headaches and fever medications, and in your case, heart problem. Aspirin, other than it thins out the blood, it also causes stomach upset, which can develop into gastrointestinal bleeding. And i'm sure u do not want that on one of your diving trips!!! And if one gets a barotrauma (e.g sinus barotrauma), the tendency to bleed is higher than compared to someone not on Aspirin...Aspirin however, does not increase the ease of nitrogen transport.

You hae a heart problem?? Problem apa bro??


Hahahha...no la! I said I'm allergic to Aspirin and other NSAIDs...one tablet will see me being rushed to a clinic for a huge dose of anti-histamine or something. I was in Brunei when someone gave me an Aspirin when I asked for a Panadol...then I was rushed to Shell Kuala Belait's clinic, jabbed...difficulty in breathing for the next few hours..and spent the next 7 days or so looking like I've had a bout with Mike Tyson in the boxing ring. And no, I don't have a heart problem...my LDL may be slightly high (4.0) and my HDL low (1.37) but I completed my stress test with flying colours la...no anomalies detected.
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Re: Diving While Under Medication

Post Number:#7  Postby Snafu » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:27 am

What medications are proven that effect divers underwater? ... say the common medications.

How does Aspirin not helping in moving nitrogen ..... any test done on it? Dont aspirin relaxes the muscle & makes the blood flow easier ... ie Viagra too.

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Re: Diving While Under Medication

Post Number:#8  Postby divedoc » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:15 am

What medications are proven that effect divers underwater? ... say the common medications.

How does Aspirin not helping in moving nitrogen ..... any test done on it? Dont aspirin relaxes the muscle & makes the blood flow easier ... ie Viagra too.

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Aspirin and Paracetamol have been proven in studies to be safely used under hyperbaric conditions. FYI, Aspirin does not relaxes the muscles thus making blood flow easier; the mechanism of action is quite complicated and unless you have studied on pharmacology, it'll be pointless for me to explain. Its effects are:
  1) Analgesic (pain-relief for layman)
  2) Anti-inflammatory
  3) Anti-pyretic (anti-fever...)

Bro, pasal Viagra lak, apahal nak amik Viagra then go diving?? Wanna have sex in the water ka?? Actually, the effects of Viagra is to relax the smooth muscles of your blood vessels, hence its effect on erection. However, it is wise to note that among the adverse effects for Viagra include: headache (can mimic DCS), flushing, diarrhoea, dizziness, nasal congestion, and visual disturbances.

If u want common medications, i would expect for u to mention nasal decongestants for cough and cold. As anti-histamines can cause drowsiness, there are newer types of Panadol in the market specifically for cough and cold. But it's best if u use Clarityne or Telfast for nasal congestion as these meds do not cause drowsiness or impair judgment.

If u have a list of meds, list it down and i'll check it out for u...
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Re: Diving While Under Medication

Post Number:#9  Postby John F SeaDemon » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:31 am

If u have a list of meds, list it down and i'll check it out for u...


Drugs I Was or Still Am On:

1. Urocalun
2. Zyrtec
3. Prussian Blue
4. Prednisolone
5. Combantrin
6. Zytorin
7. Levitra
8. Tetracycline
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Re: Diving While Under Medication

Post Number:#10  Postby divedoc » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:18 am

If u have a list of meds, list it down and i'll check it out for u...


Drugs I Was or Still Am On:

1. Urocalun
2. Zyrtec
3. Prussian Blue
4. Prednisolone
5. Combantrin
6. Zytorin
7. Levitra
8. Tetracycline


I don't just mean the medications, i meant the conditions/illnesses as well (if that's fine wit u...)
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Post Number:#11  Postby John F SeaDemon » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:47 am

Drugs I Was or Still Am On:

1. Urocalun - I prescribed this to myself when I was peeing blood and my back ached like hell
2. Zyrtec - I'm allergic to something I love to eat: shellfish...which gave me #1's condition
3. Prussian Blue - anti-radiation drug..never had it.
4. Prednisolone - I was on this for several days to prep me for an IVU session cos I am allergic to the dye. It didn't work. I still looked like I had a bout of boxing with Mike Tyson that night.
5. Combantrin - I saw this on TV when I was small.
6. Zytorin - Zocor was crap., Lipitor gave me muscle aches...this one is supposed to help me because I can't take Aspirin (Cardiprin)
7. Levitra - I was sleepy in office and wanted to stay awake. I couldn't find Viagra, so this was my next best choice.
8. Tetracycline - I prescribed this to myself back in 1994

Oh, for condition #1, they poked a cable that has camera, water jet and that thing to crunch something, through my d*ck. So now Holemaster knows why my Friendster's friends' list is like that. ;) ;D
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Re: Diving While Under Medication

Post Number:#12  Postby divedoc » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:42 am

Drugs I Was or Still Am On:

1. Urocalun - I prescribed this to myself when I was peeing blood and my back ached like hell
2. Zyrtec - I'm allergic to something I love to eat: shellfish...which gave me #1's condition
3. Prussian Blue - anti-radiation drug..never had it.
4. Prednisolone - I was on this for several days to prep me for an IVU session cos I am allergic to the dye. It didn't work. I still looked like I had a bout of boxing with Mike Tyson that night.
5. Combantrin - I saw this on TV when I was small.
6. Zytorin - Zocor was crap., Lipitor gave me muscle aches...this one is supposed to help me because I can't take Aspirin (Cardiprin)
7. Levitra - I was sleepy in office and wanted to stay awake. I couldn't find Viagra, so this was my next best choice.
8. Tetracycline - I prescribed this to myself back in 1994...


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(1) - No contraindications to diving, might as well use it coz' if u pee blood in the open sea, u're attracting sharks, hehehe...
(2) - although it is a non-sedative anti-histamines, among the uncommon side-effects includes headache, dizziness, drowsiness, agitation, and GI discomfort
(3) - No comment. Why on earth need an anti-radiation meds for??
(4) - Steroids are generally safe as it works by lowering our immunity threshold, that's why i'm baffled why u had a reaction with Prednisone. Did they try Hydrocortisone on u?? Short term use, no problem, but long term steroids use...BANYAK PROBLEM!!! Not recommended if anyone on this drug class to be active in diving.
(5) - No longer available in the market, itu ubat LAMA tuh!!
(6) - No problems with diving
(7) - Wrong choice to keep u awake!! More adverse effects than benefits...but for layman like u (someone who likes to get laid often...), memang sesuai sangat lah, hehehe...Jokes aside, Levitra's adverse effects are equivalent to Viagra's, so highly unrecommended for diving...
(8) - Why laa pandai2 prescribed sendiri?? Tapi if it's way back in 1994 and u no longer use it, then it's fine. Reported adverse effects with the use of tetracycline include solar hypersensitivity...so, not recommended for diving, unless u are a sat diver!!
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Re: Diving While Under Medication

Post Number:#13  Postby John F SeaDemon » Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:01 am

Drugs I Was or Still Am On:

1. Urocalun - I prescribed this to myself when I was peeing blood and my back ached like hell
2. Zyrtec - I'm allergic to something I love to eat: shellfish...which gave me #1's condition
3. Prussian Blue - anti-radiation drug..never had it.
4. Prednisolone - I was on this for several days to prep me for an IVU session cos I am allergic to the dye. It didn't work. I still looked like I had a bout of boxing with Mike Tyson that night.
5. Combantrin - I saw this on TV when I was small.
6. Zytorin - Zocor was crap., Lipitor gave me muscle aches...this one is supposed to help me because I can't take Aspirin (Cardiprin)
7. Levitra - I was sleepy in office and wanted to stay awake. I couldn't find Viagra, so this was my next best choice.
8. Tetracycline - I prescribed this to myself back in 1994...


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(1) - No contraindications to diving, might as well use it coz' if u pee blood in the open sea, u're attracting sharks, hehehe...
(2) - although it is a non-sedative anti-histamines, among the uncommon side-effects includes headache, dizziness, drowsiness, agitation, and GI discomfort
(3) - No comment. Why on earth need an anti-radiation meds for??
(4) - Steroids are generally safe as it works by lowering our immunity threshold, that's why i'm baffled why u had a reaction with Prednisone. Did they try Hydrocortisone on u?? Short term use, no problem, but long term steroids use...BANYAK PROBLEM!!! Not recommended if anyone on this drug class to be active in diving.
(5) - No longer available in the market, itu ubat LAMA tuh!!
(6) - No problems with diving
(7) - Wrong choice to keep u awake!! More adverse effects than benefits...but for layman like u (someone who likes to get laid often...), memang sesuai sangat lah, hehehe...Jokes aside, Levitra's adverse effects are equivalent to Viagra's, so highly unrecommended for diving...
(8) - Why laa pandai2 prescribed sendiri?? Tapi if it's way back in 1994 and u no longer use it, then it's fine. Reported adverse effects with the use of tetracycline include solar hypersensitivity...so, not recommended for diving, unless u are a sat diver!!


Hahaha....

(1) Yes, I'd like to see sharks..at least I get different subjects to shoot videos
(2) GI discomfort? General Infantrymen?
(3) I don't know the answer to that too
(4) They only used it that once la...when it didn't work properly as I was still affected by the IVU's dye, the radiologist refused to do another IVU on me again after the procedure to enlarge my d*ck..sorry, to remove the stone...good call by the radiologist
(5) Oh ye ke? I just had another bottle...oops
(6) Good to know. I'm on the 10/40 version...kat medical center, pharmacy semua tak ada in stock..kena order
(7) Now I know why I get horny seeing Holemaster
(8) It was that once la...I had bad breakout of acne cos I ate lots of shellfish the week before. So went to the RSAT pharmacy and prescribed some Tetracycline for myself.  Oh, I also forgot to tell you that when in Mecca I had bad sore throat. As usual they had Sudanese doctors provided by the Haj Ministry and all he gave me was something to gargle on, some lozenges, and the usual cough mixture...never worked. So went to the Pharmacy and bought me a box of Amoxycillin 500mg and took twice a day for 5 days.

Old habit..tak nak Attend C.
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Re: Diving While Under Medication

Post Number:#14  Postby divedoc » Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:03 pm

Man, that's the difference between soldier zaman batu and soldier zaman IT, hahaha...zaman IT asyik nak Att C je, pantang cuti panjang sket, the next day kerja mesti ramai beratur panjang kat RSAT utk report sick...

GI discomfort tu is gastrointestinal discomfort, alahh, sakit perut lah...

Like i said earlier, i know u enjoy diving bro, tapi kalau dah banyak medications mcm tu, tak yah makan nasi le sebelum ur dive, telan ubat je dah gerenti kenyang nye, hehehe...
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