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Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#1  Postby Bobo® » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:59 pm

KEUPAYAAN GGK AKAN TERUS DIPERTINGKATKAN

MERSING 18 Dis. _ Tentera Darat Malaysia (TDM) akan terus mempertingkatkan keupayaan pasukan elitnya, Grup Gerak Khas (GGK) sebagai persediaan menghadapi pelbagai ancaman alaf baru terutama serangan pengganas.

Panglima Tentera Darat, Jeneral Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Zainal berkata, bagi mencapai matlamat menjadi pasukan elit terbaik di dunia, GGK akan disesuaikan dengan pelbagai perubahan merangkumi struktur organisasi, latihan serta peralatan. [snip]

 Beliau berkata demikian ketika berucap merasmikan Kompleks Perubatan Menyelam 21 Grup Gerak Khas, Kem Iskandar, Mersing di sini hari ini.

  Turut hadir Panglima 21 Grup Gerak Khas, Brigadier Jeneral Datuk Awie Suboh dan Panglima 3 Divisyen, Mejar Jeneral Datuk Zulkifeli Mohd. Zin.

[highlight] Kompleks yang menempatkan kebuk penyahmampatan tekanan itu membolehkan anggota-anggota GGK yang mengalami komplikasi tekanan ketika latihan menyelam mendapat rawatan sepenuhnya.[/highlight] [snip]

  [snip] ''Saya mahu GGK mempertingkatkan kemahiran menyelam supaya sentiasa bersedia untuk melaksanakan tugas dengan cemerlang apabila diperlukan kelak,'' katanya.

  Jelasnya, dengan adanya kemudahan di kompleks perubatan tersebut, anggota GGK yang mengalami komplikasi tekanan bakal mendapat rawatan sistematik pada kadar segera tanpa perlu dihantar ke Hospital Angkatan Tentera di Lumut, Perak.

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Doc, can we share if emergency..?? Can cover the east coast.
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#2  Postby mocha » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:05 pm

:) good news...... will make fren wif the doc there.... hehe....
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#3  Postby bijan » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:06 pm

huhu..cool..

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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#4  Postby HollowMan » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:12 pm

Wahh...ini sudah bagus harap2 org awam boleh la pakai ...
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#5  Postby mocha » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:37 pm

bro... sign up jadi askar wataniah terus boleh pakai.... hahaha.....  ;D
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#6  Postby sheik » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:10 am

This is good news, indeed!
  but,


Heaven forbids that NONE of us here need to use it. Amen!
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#7  Postby John F SeaDemon » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:23 pm

I had a chat with someone there the other day. Since it is a special-ops group base, it will not be open to public as it is [highlight]NOT[/highlight] a hospital. Just a chamber facility for the special-ops guys. We still need to go to Lumut.
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#8  Postby mocha » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:38 pm

hahaha.... i was told about that too..... but if really emergency, then we can calll the GGK comander, my former deputy P5... when i was in para brigade..... haha... now 2 stars oledi....
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#9  Postby divedoc » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:35 pm

Guys,
Regarding the hyperbaric chamber in Mersing, actually Tentera Darat requested the chamber specs from us, and our own Diving Medical Officer inspected it to make sure it conforms to the international standard.

As to whether you guys can use it if in case anything happens, I do not see any problems...although the chamber is not located in a hospital, any diving emergencies can be treated there as we also have a diving doc in the GGK base...We have been applying the same concept in Semporna, Sabah where the hyperbaric chamber in the Naval Special Ops (PASKAL) base has been used for treatment of civilian divers, including foreigners.

BUT, let's hope you guys don't have to use it, okay!!
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#10  Postby Caduceus » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:40 pm

The Mersing GGK chamber will definitely improve the medical support for all of us. It will be shared, but we'll need to know how.

Should any of us be unfortunate enough to get ill after a dive (due to decompression sickness or whatever). The one thing you should do first is to call the Malaysian Diving Emergency Hotline (05-9304114). This 24-hour emergency advisory service will get you in touch with a doctor trained in Diving Medicine. He will help in:
1. Telling you what your illness is.
2. Telling you what to do next (first aid).
3. Where and how to get immediate help (if needed), and then
4. Where and how to get to an appropriate recompression chamber (there are several places for this - the correct place will be dependent on the patient's condition, time, and location)

Not everyone needs to go to Lumut. For example, yesterday an unfortunate diver with DCS in Sabah called the Hotline. The diving doctor on-call makes a few phone calls. An hour afterwards the ill diver is being sent from Hospital Semporna to Pangkalan TLDM Semporna for recompression at a naval facility there. Today the diver is well.

Not everyone having a diving emergency in Mersing should go to the GGK chamber. Some illnesses should not be recompressed. Some emergencies need to be stabilised first before recompression (usually by emergency room doctors at a nearby hospital). The diving doctor at the hotline shall explain if this is the case.

This is where the hotline saves time. Those of us who are members of Divers Alert Network, do attach the hotline tag to your BC / D-ring. A buddy's phonecall to that number (while the diver is unconscious) can save a life. I have seen this happen. We can even make our own tags.

What NOT to do:
1. Try NOT to go knocking on the Base / Camp asking to be recompressed. They'll just turn us away. Get the diving doctors in Lumut to organise our treatment for us (via the hotline). Avoid delay.
2. Try NOT to delay calling the hotline (e.g. "this is not too serious, I do not want to wake the doctor up" or "I do not want to be recompressed tonight"). No harm in hearing advise immediately. What we do afterwards is totally up to us.
3. Try NOT to attempt in-water recompression. This is only for experts equipped with sophisticated equipment. Even experts (trust me, I know) are afraid of this. It can kill your ill diver easily.

It is wonderful that we have chambers owned by the Navy (Lumut, Kuantan, Labuan, Semporna), Army (Melaka, Mersing), University Sains (Kelantan) and soon, Kementerian Kesihatan (Hospital Kuala Terengganu) to help us. Tie all this up with the hotline, and the diving doctors that run it - we have a helpful tool during emergencies.

Check out this site: http://iuhm.net/03divinj.html

But perhaps the best way to deal with emergencies is not to have an emergency in the first place. Dive conservatively.
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#11  Postby mocha » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:47 pm

thanx sir for the advice.... do look up for me whenever u are back in sg besi visiting your alma mater.... ;)
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#12  Postby HollowMan » Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:36 am

Thanks :)
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#13  Postby Caduceus » Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:13 am

Anyone who wants to visit a hyperbaric chamber in Lumut - email me. You can see treatment being done - every day weekday (non-diving cases - but treatment method is the same). Chamber dives can be arranged. Free!

ps: not as a patient la...
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#14  Postby pröb » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:14 am

thanx so much for the info.

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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#15  Postby Bobo® » Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:48 am

Anyone who wants to visit a hyperbaric chamber in Lumut - email me. You can see treatment being done - every day weekday (non-diving cases - but treatment method is the same). Chamber dives can be arranged. Free!

ps: not as a patient la...


if main-main go inside can ahhh..??? hehehe :D
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#16  Postby mocha » Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:00 am

Anyone who wants to visit a hyperbaric chamber in Lumut - email me. You can see treatment being done - every day weekday (non-diving cases - but treatment method is the same). Chamber dives can be arranged. Free!

ps: not as a patient la...


if main-main go inside can ahhh..??? hehehe :D


bobo, we do chamber dives la.... sampai tahap suara jadi donald duck....  ;D bila mau buat lawatan sambil belajar??
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#17  Postby divedoc » Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:58 pm

Quote from Caduceus on Yesterday at 00:13:56:
Anyone who wants to visit a hyperbaric chamber in Lumut - email me. You can see treatment being done - every day weekday (non-diving cases - but treatment method is the same). Chamber dives can be arranged. Free!

ps: not as a patient la...


BTW, kalau nak main-main, better gi diving, betul tak?? hehehe...anywayz, kalau nak masuk just for a feel of dry diving, why not?? TAPI, kalau dah jadi patient tu...sori le, terpaksa bayar...
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#18  Postby John F SeaDemon » Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:53 pm

if main-main go inside can ahhh..??? hehehe :D


Can...next time we go to that secret island, you follow me down to that big wreck at 42m. We play around that depth for 30 minutes, then I inflate your BCD. :-X ;D
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#19  Postby John F SeaDemon » Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:54 pm

bobo, we do chamber dives la.... sampai tahap suara jadi donald duck....  ;D bila mau buat lawatan sambil belajar??


Itu tak payah chamber, bro...lu pergi aje kat pasar malam, cari mamat jual belon...dia ada industrial helium (not diving helium). Lu tarik satu dua pam...lepas tu story kat kitorang. ;D
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Re: Can we share the hyperbaric??

Post Number:#20  Postby Caduceus » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:22 pm

Boleh - "training" dives are commonly done.
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