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Sea water gets into ears!

Post Number:#1  Postby DatinSeroja » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:25 am

my biggest problem after my dive is hearing problem due to sea water gets into my ears!
how to avoid it??i feel very-very uncomfortable when this things happen.... :-[
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Post Number:#2  Postby Quero » Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:52 pm

my biggest problem after my dive is hearing problem due to sea water gets into my ears!
how to avoid it??i feel very-very uncomfortable when this things happen.... :-[


DS, It's unlikely just seawater.

What is probably happening is that you are slightly injuring your ears by not equalizing often enough. That muffled and full feeling we get in the ears after diving comes from a slight bruising due to barotrauma of the ears. The bruising makes fluid build up behind the membrane separating the outer and middle ear (just like the swelling from a normal bruise, say on your finger or shinbone). It usually takes a while to go away, and ear drops don't help. The only thing that helps, once the injury is there, is to let it heal up on its own, same as any little bruise you get. Of course, it heals faster if you don't continue to irritate it by diving.

The best "cure" is prevention! Equalize every time you breathe in as you descend (you will know if your ears have cleared), and descend slowly if you have any difficulty at all in equalizing. Forcing an equalization also can make the bruise worse, so don't wait until you feel the need to equalize--do it early, before the pressure builds up so much you notice it.
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Post Number:#3  Postby jgshuwei » Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:59 pm

I normally jump a bit after diving.  ;D ;D ;D
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Post Number:#4  Postby DatinSeroja » Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:58 pm

thanks quero 4 d info!
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Post Number:#5  Postby ery » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:50 pm

i usually try to equalize as if i am equalizing under water and it works on me..
you may want to try it in the future
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Post Number:#6  Postby poRnstar » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:45 am

I normally jump a bit after diving.  ;D ;D ;D


me too me too..
usualy the water will come out one..  ;D
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Post Number:#7  Postby superkingkong » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:46 am

if really it's water, try using some cotton butts .. and see if it helps...  :)
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Post Number:#8  Postby reen » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:38 am

if really it's water, try using some cotton butts .. and see if it helps...  :)


sumone told me that it is not good to cotton butt your ear after the dives.
Prone to infections. I dont know how to true.
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Post Number:#9  Postby anas » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:43 am

if really it's water, try using some cotton butts .. and see if it helps...  :)


sumone told me that it is not good to cotton butt your ear after the dives.
Prone to infections. I dont know how to true.


Once an otologist said to me, the only thing you can put in your ears is your elbow.
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Post Number:#10  Postby superkingkong » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:28 am

if really it's water, try using some cotton butts .. and see if it helps...  :)


sumone told me that it is not good to cotton butt your ear after the dives.
Prone to infections. I dont know how to true.


oh... not sure about that...

but what i mean is not insert it and dig  ;D

but gently insert it an tap up down left right so the cotton can absorp the seawater
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Post Number:#11  Postby superkingkong » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:29 am

if really it's water, try using some cotton butts .. and see if it helps...  :)


sumone told me that it is not good to cotton butt your ear after the dives.
Prone to infections. I dont know how to true.


Once an otologist said to me, the only thing you can put in your ears is your elbow.


God gracious!!.. how in an earth can an elbow be inserted into the ear?
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Post Number:#12  Postby dikiz.m.s » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:51 am

if really it's water, try using some cotton butts .. and see if it helps...  :)


sumone told me that it is not good to cotton butt your ear after the dives.
Prone to infections. I dont know how to true.


Once an otologist said to me, the only thing you can put in your ears is your elbow.


God gracious!!.. how in an earth can an elbow be inserted into the ear?


Hi guys,

   good topic. would like to share opinion. "using cotton bud really does help a little bit but it also contributes to ear damage and would lead to infections. Sea/salt water when dry becomes crystalize and when rub (with cotton bud) will hurt the ear etc".

I have a close friend who is now suffering from ear infection (not sure if it is due to using cotton buds) but he had infections due to water contain in the ear that leads to somesort like a fungus growth and had to go for a minor operation to insert titanium rings in the eustachian tube (somethin like that ar). Guess what, Dr. tells him to get out from the water (meaning: NO DIVING) at all.

I was told the best way for us to look after our ears from getting infections is by rinsing (putting) with warm water (fresh). This does work too. BUT make sure you do it a few times. (any salt/sea water trapped will evenually follow its way out from the ear.

Hope the info helps.
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Post Number:#13  Postby jgshuwei » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:46 pm

Ppl with lots of ear wax might encounter problem with any water activity. This was happened to my wife, the ear wax expand when it was wet and create pressure to the ear drum. My doctor friend used a 20cc syringe filled with warm water and pumped into her ears. After everything cleared, she became a "bionic woman" where she can hear any tiny sound around her.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post Number:#14  Postby IkanBilis » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:33 pm

Ppl with lots of ear wax might encounter problem with any water activity. This was happened to my wife, the ear wax expand when it was wet and create pressure to the ear drum. My doctor friend used a 20cc syringe filled with warm water and pumped into her ears. After everything cleared, she became a "bionic woman" where she can hear any tiny sound around her.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sounds like compacted ear-wax, John. That usually happens when a person's ear does not expunge ear-wax like a normal person's ear would. It could be compounded by vigorous use of cotton buds in the ear. The compacted ear-wax will become hard. When immersed in water, the wax will expand, causing extreme discomfort in the ear. The method of extraction u described is the best way to extract this compacted ear-wax.

That was my comment as an experienced father.. lets hear it frm the doctors of MUW..
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Post Number:#15  Postby zzz » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:46 pm

I am only goin to answer about cotton buds and impacted ear wax. ;)

1. It's not good to use cotton buds or any other things to clear your ears
   It may damage your eardrums, introduce infection, may push wax further in
2. One good solution is to use wax softener eg Waxol but if you have a perforated     eardrum this is contraindicated. another alternative is to use baby oil (few drops).
3. If all fails your dr can do a washout or larvage as described above by jgshuwei
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Post Number:#16  Postby wmwoo » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:47 am

Hey! I got something from my instructor to put into my ears when I went for the first time....
I'm sure you guys here know what is that call!! Sorry...don't know the proper term.
It's work! at least 80%  ;D
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Post Number:#17  Postby dikiz.m.s » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:04 am

Ppl with lots of ear wax might encounter problem with any water activity. This was happened to my wife, the ear wax expand when it was wet and create pressure to the ear drum. My doctor friend used a 20cc syringe filled with warm water and pumped into her ears. After everything cleared, she became a "bionic woman" where she can hear any tiny sound around her.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



Told you guys, warm water is the best remedy.
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Post Number:#18  Postby anas » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:32 pm

if really it's water, try using some cotton butts .. and see if it helps...  :)


sumone told me that it is not good to cotton butt your ear after the dives.
Prone to infections. I dont know how to true.


Once an otologist said to me, the only thing you can put in your ears is your elbow.


God gracious!!.. how in an earth can an elbow be inserted into the ear?


It means that you shouldn't put anything in your ears lah. I bet u tried to pull your elbow into your ear ah.. ahahah :-)

Dr. Bone has already mentioned earlier. Cotton bud - NO. Wax softener - YES.
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Post Number:#19  Postby deepblu » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:44 pm

if really it's water, try using some cotton butts .. and see if it helps...  :)


sumone told me that it is not good to cotton butt your ear after the dives.
Prone to infections. I dont know how to true.


Once an otologist said to me, the only thing you can put in your ears is your elbow.


God gracious!!.. how in an earth can an elbow be inserted into the ear?


It means that you shouldn't put anything in your ears lah. I bet u tried to pull your elbow into your ear ah.. ahahah :-)

Dr. Bone has already mentioned earlier. Cotton bud - NO. Wax softener - YES.


Dang. Just when i was about to insert my knee into my ears...
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Post Number:#20  Postby DaKuLaa » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:45 pm

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post Number:#21  Postby mephisto » Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:27 pm

as for jgshuwei and babyfins jumping......and alternative way is bend forward 45 degrees and roll your head side to side...you will feel the water flow out of your ear.

as for cotton buds....i agree that cotton buds may push the ear wax futher etc.....but the main issue that applies to divers is fungal or infection because of damp ears. thus i see cotton buds as a neccesary evil. it really suck the water from the ear.

but get quality ear buds. cheap ones sometimes the cotton can detach and get stuck in the ear.

my take on it....try to dry the ears naturally...jumping/bending/etc...then cotton buds...then all the methods mention in the above posting...or use a ear plug that can be equalize like Pro Plugs.
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Post Number:#22  Postby joe » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:20 am

err..it often occur to me,i just fill water back into your ears,until it spills.the turn that ear side downward.the water will flow by it self.the viscous property of water tend to draw out the residuals in ur ears.think better use fresh water.it dissolve salt.
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Post Number:#23  Postby John F SeaDemon » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:34 am

A good method, Joe. Especially if you have perforated TM
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Re: Sea water gets into ears!

Post Number:#24  Postby blueocean » Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:11 pm

last time my buddy ear was half deaf . just couldnt hear properly , maybe cos by quick descent or not very often equalise. The divemaster from kapalai put a drop af vodka into the ears and then after a while my buddy feel  :wav:. its true cos i was there
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Post Number:#25  Postby Scorpenesub » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:05 pm

blueocean wrote:last time my buddy ear was half deaf . just couldnt hear properly , maybe cos by quick descent or not very often equalise. The divemaster from kapalai put a drop af vodka into the ears and then after a while my buddy feel  :wav:. its true cos i was there

Hmmmm....vodka through the ear.....a new way to a wonderful drink.... :D :D :D
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Re: Sea water gets into ears!

Post Number:#26  Postby bikinibottom » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:00 am

there is a rational to the vodka method, i agree by dropping few drops of alcohol can help release the water trapped in the ear canal. ive tried using this antiseptic eardrops which im not sure where to find it (havent tried asking the pharmacist tho) once when diving with my instructor, he got it from a matsalleh diver. it worked well, the eardrops which contain alcohol absorbs the water and leaving your ears dry immediately, i can feel the instant water flow gush out from my canal. so whoever find it difficult of getting the water released from your ears, try find the eardrops n im sure you won't complain, it worked good on me!  :D
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Re: Sea water gets into ears!

Post Number:#27  Postby aquaholic » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:37 pm

The vodka and alcohol works because it disrupts the surface tension of water. Just make sure it is sterile.

There is something in the market called "swim-ear" which you can try.
http://www.simplyscuba.com/ProductDetai ... tockID=867

Note: This is not a product endorsement and no, I don't know where to buy them locally.
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