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Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#1  Postby nightc » Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:13 pm

Hi,

Can someone advise what is a good dive comp in the form of watch to buy for recreational diver? Currently I'm only open water but planning to take advance in October.

Looking for the best bang for the buck dive comp.

Also appreciate it if someone can tell me where is the best place to get it around Klang Valley.

Thanks.
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#2  Postby run » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:07 am

you can try cressi..see the price in the link
http://www.scubastation.com.my/products.php?cat=28

sunnto zoop. you dont have to buy at lelong...any dive shop around kl can offer this price
http://www.lelong.com.my/suunto-zoop-zo ... Sale-I.htm

mares puck
http://rainbowrunner.net/index.php?id_p ... er=product

many divers like to buy sunnto D4i coz it look like a watch. You can wear with/without diving.

All dive computer offer the same function. They all must have Bottom time, depth, No Deco Limit.
Extra feature are also included in these DC such as Free dive mode and Nitrox

-- Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:14 am --

Goodluck with your advance in oct! :YMPEACE:
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#3  Postby Narco » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:31 am

The new MARES Puck looks nice. and Simple too.

My consideration: i want something that i can wear as a watch. I got myself a D6I and a Meridian. I also own a MARES M2 bought at RM150.
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#4  Postby nightc » Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:12 pm

Thanks for the reply. I've been looking at puck pro and zoop. Can't decide which to get yet. D4i seems nice too but D6i is too pricey for me.
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#5  Postby mamakpenang » Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:29 pm

my suggestion, buy a good DC and buy once, not twice.....
go get Scubapro Meridian or Suunto D4i or D6i......you can wear it on daily basis as well, then we can know that u are a diver, oppss...advanced diver.....
those divers advised u to buy a cheap and practical DC and really big in size also wear either Suunto D6i or D4i or Scubapro Meridian.....hehe....
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#6  Postby nightc » Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:58 pm

How about mares matrix? Is it good
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#7  Postby mamakpenang » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:41 pm

haha....i am not sure how much the mares matrix will cost you, but mares matrix not as popular as suunto D4i (~1565 mide 2013) or Meridian (~1750 mide 2013)......
i am stuck with scubapro algorithm (uwatec aladin pro nitrox DC - bullet proof DC)
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#8  Postby run » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:29 pm

mares matrix need to recharge overnight. It has a rechargable batteries same like our the batteries in our camera. So if you forget to recharge , then you know what will happen next.
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#9  Postby Narco » Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:14 pm

No need DC. Use your table. Don't do unplanned repetitive dive. Plan your dive and that can easily be done by using your table. Don't get lazy like your brother and sister here, ah boy! Later u might not even remember how to read ur table.
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#10  Postby pakutekan » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:58 pm

Hi Narco..
Interesting topic about using dive table.. As me SDI certified ow.. I don't know how to use dive table. During my course. We only use DC.. After look at SDI ow note/handbook.. They also not mention about learn to use dive table. Just emphasise that SDI is first dive school that implement dive comp in their course... Is it normal practise by SDI or just my instructor/dive center not teach it?
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#11  Postby EvanSoon » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:22 am

I have a new Mares puck pro for sale if you are interested.
I would say it is easy to use due to one button config but need some patience with it at times.
It can support 2 air blends so you can use it as a back up comp for tec too.
only down side is its big so u cant wear it for a daily watch.
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#12  Postby run » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:53 am

pakutekan wrote:Hi Narco..
Interesting topic about using dive table.. As me SDI certified ow.. I don't know how to use dive table. During my course. We only use DC.. After look at SDI ow note/handbook.. They also not mention about learn to use dive table. Just emphasise that SDI is first dive school that implement dive comp in their course... Is it normal practise by SDI or just my instructor/dive center not teach it?


pakutekan it is a normal practise by SDI. You got to understand that SDI is another branch/sister company of TDI. TDi is more for techincal diver. As far as i know Tekkis requirement need to own a DC.
Take it simple like this . Remember when we were little we were taught in primary school to remember the 1x1~12x12 tables at the back of our school note book? It is the fundamental of arithmetic but we dont see people doing their daily calculation without the aid of a calculator.

So the dive tables same like this. Its the fundamental of diving in safe environment. We should know how to read it but it could be quite difficult if we want to read the tables underwater but of course WE MUST PLAN our dive before we dive. So any table reading must be done before a dive and then stick to the plan but
One thing for sure, no matter how we plan our dives, things will not fall according to plan. Mother nature is unpredictable. How can you be sure there is no down current?
or one rare species of marine life suddenly decide want to pop up in front of you?
Thus the DC is needed.

The only downside is what happen if your DC runout of battery and your buddy dont have a DC and you cant rent any DC from the dive center?
What will you do? Skip the dive for that day?
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#13  Postby pakutekan » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:52 am

Noted.. tq Run..
Luckily I already have DC.. Now still study how to use dive table..
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#14  Postby Narco » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:30 pm

Dive table is important.. VERY important!

Just a buy a basic DC. Second hand also ok. It it got scratch, at least your heart wont.

Buy according to your needs guys, not your lust :YMDEVIL:
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#15  Postby nightc » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:07 pm

Very true of what Narco mentioned here. The DC I'm planning to get is because I'm just lazy to look at dive table all the time :-)

I always bring my dive table with me on each dive trip.

Still struggling on which DC though... Hahaha
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#16  Postby Narco » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:15 am

I go for STYLE and only then function.. Biasalah, at that time really berlagak and try to tell the whole world 'I'm a Diver'. So, i was checking upon D4 and Oceanic Geo, which i can wear as a wrist watch. But finally, darling at home a.k.a Finance Minister sponsor me a D6i. Prior to that, i have a second hand Mares M1. Good DC. Operates on AAA batteries.

Then, through mamakpenang, i manage to get a good deal of a Meridian. Grab than one a year after i got my D6i. Thats for the darling to use (actually i'm using. Giving to darling is just an excuse).

Well, that's just me. Again, i go for style.

During most dives, you will be needing the bloody same function. Well, that depends on what time of diver you are. Unless you are doing deep dive all the time and serious repetitive dive all day long or you are doing multiple gases mixture or even tech (which i dont think so). For me, under normal circumstances, normal dive between the range of 5-25m deep. Most three dives a day (except when I'm in Mabul/Sipadan/Kapalai where i'll grab all chances to dive). Basic dive comm should be sufficient. I dont know whether people would agree with me, but i found out that all dive comm are average the same and none are more superior than the other. Each got their own signature feat and own disadvantage.

Basic consideration, as those sifus been telling you and you might want to consider (this is my list of self evaluation):

a) Big or small (if you want to use it on daily basis, get a small one - use as wrist watch)
b) Design - sleek or bold. sometimes people just want to make a statement.
c) Support - Suunto/Scubapro/Uwatec are among the popular brand that you can easily get support. Not sure about the rest. But you will want support if your DC gone cuckoo after ur few first dives especially after you burn your pocket to buy it.
d) Style - this is different from design. I would buy something that is pretty rare being seen used.

And i also believe that if you take good care of your stuff, it will lost last and in return will take good care of you too.

Happy hunting and Selamat Hari Raya.
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#17  Postby nightc » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:58 am

Thanks for the great info and summary, Narco.

I'll just drop by scuba shop and test the dc kaw-kau before purchase :D
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#18  Postby span » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:44 am

good info... :-BD :-BD
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#19  Postby nightc » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:31 pm

Went shopping for DC but ends up with mask.. hahaha.

Anyway, booked a black Suunto Zoop and will get it by end of the month.
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#20  Postby nanda666 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:00 am

I've been using a SUUNTO Mosquito (Wearing it now at work too...friday is casual...lol...) for quite a long time and it does the job.
The D4 is the current new (Is it new???...) version.
If you're not planning on doing technical diving which involves mix gases, you don't need the high end stuff....As long as it does NITROX, you're good to go.
The D6 and above are great but you can get caught out in the "Ada gaya isi takde" (Style with out substance!!) department....LOL...
As for dive tables, it is the fastest way to check how long you can stay at particular depths, how deep you can go for your next dive and how long your surface interval needs to be...trying to do all of that with your dive com is possible, i think....but i never tried as I rather spend my time looking at my camera or photos rather than the DC on my surface interval.....just my 2 cents!!
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#21  Postby mamakpenang » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:48 pm

suunto zoop is a nice choice, my friend using suunto gecko white color and look very nice, what color your zoop orange or yellow.....
size of the DC does matter, maybe not now, once u are getting older (like me), u will need bigger screen ie scubapro LUNA, galileo, or mares ICON HD.......(the owner of this DC might claim the DC very good & can do many thing without telling u they cannot see clearly on small screen DC)
because our eyes tend to get blur once we aging....hehe
for deep dive & wreck dive 35-40 mtr, i still prefer Uwatec Aladin Pro Nitrox (blue color).......or Uwatec Aladin Pro (grey color), simply big screen and less conservative.......
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#22  Postby Narco » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:54 pm

I use magnifying glass to view my DC.. and also when i need to look at the macro stuff.
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#23  Postby mamakpenang » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:59 pm

macro stuff....i put some sea water inside my mask, natural magnifying lense.........haha....
additional thing to carry, magnifying glass and a small mirror yea......
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#24  Postby run » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:55 pm

Narco mamakpenang..please eat carrots ok. It is good for your eyes hahaha
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#25  Postby Narco » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:25 am

Run, bit difficult since both of us are not vegetarian.

Since Run mention it, please also bring carrots during your dives together with a magnifying glass.. hehe
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#26  Postby nightc » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:35 am

Anyone has any thoughts to share on Cressi Leonardo? It's either this or Zoop.
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#27  Postby Narco » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:55 am

Well, i heard GOOD review about Leo. Single button, good display and easy to use. Its the first DC fully developed/built by Cressi.
Now Cressi came with another DC - Gressi GIOTTO. Not bad for a design. It is three buttons and seem sleek as well.
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#28  Postby nightc » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:38 am

Giotto is out of my budget. :(

Leo it is then.
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#29  Postby Narco » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:07 pm

Way to go man!

Check and recheck ur needs, do lots of homework, check again your budget and be a proud owner of a DC.

Get one good DC and make full use of it. If u take care of it, it might last longer than u expected.
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Re: Which dive comp for recreational diver

Post Number:#30  Postby mamakpenang » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:28 pm

the suunto zoop price around RM 757 if i am not mistaken, or can go lower, how much is the price for cressi leonardo?
cressi leonardo quite new, does it come with backlight, gauge mode?
Deep Stop?
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