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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#31  Postby HoleMaster » Thu May 22, 2008 1:56 pm

First bought a wing BCD bcoz i wanted something light to travel. My earlier BCD was heavy especially if its still wet when u come back from a trip. The wing BCD is light, snugs firmly, easy maintenance and easy to dry. No need to worry abt "excess baggage" and all. Another thing bcoz the design is so simple it felt really comfortable, less drag and trimming improved. But then it takes time to get used to it. Practise in the pool couple of times and once u get hang of it, u dont wanna turn back....Cheers!

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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#32  Postby nanda666 » Mon May 26, 2008 8:59 am

dp wrote:
But if u, nanda666, are taking the IDC, conducting classes using the wing system (with its harness, crotch straps etc) will prove to be near impossible. As there are no buckles to "unsnap", no cummerband to remove and "no d-ring straps" to pull.

So shud u decide to get the back inflated, IMO, use it for ur recreational dives, and use your "el-cheapo" set for OW training/certification classes.


That's sound great!! thanks guys!!
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#33  Postby irukandji » Mon May 26, 2008 11:54 am

I use wings coz it's the only BC that fit me snugly. I'm long and skinny. It's either too loose or too short for me with the jacket type BC.

I also like the freedom of movement with the hog harness, plus the size and weight of the wing BC.

And of course the 'why your BC look so funny one?' questions by the chick divers. Hehehehe!  :D
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#34  Postby reen » Mon May 26, 2008 5:14 pm

May i know ..how is it u guys deal during choppy seas using the wing BCD ??
incase such a case happens laa..of course we are uw..but if we need to be
at the surface.. is there a technique??
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#35  Postby Mephisto the Heretic » Mon May 26, 2008 5:17 pm

reen wrote:May i know ..how is it u guys deal during choppy seas using the wing BCD ??
incase such a case happens laa..of course we are uw..but if we need to be
at the surface.. is there a technique??


easy only. just lean back and you will stabilize.
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#36  Postby LaraCroft » Mon May 26, 2008 5:30 pm

reen wrote:May i know ..how is it u guys deal during choppy seas using the wing BCD ??
incase such a case happens laa..of course we are uw..but if we need to be
at the surface.. is there a technique??


I have experience once being at the surface when the water is choppy.. i have no problem of remaining vertical at the surface but having an 18 pounder wing probably is a wee bit small for big waves. Waves we splashing on my face then.. I just put in the snorkle in my mouth and everythng is fine afterwards.
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#37  Postby dp » Mon May 26, 2008 5:41 pm

LaraCroft wrote:
reen wrote:May i know ..how is it u guys deal during choppy seas using the wing BCD ??
incase such a case happens laa..of course we are uw..but if we need to be
at the surface.. is there a technique??


I have experience once being at the surface when the water is choppy.. i have no problem of remaining vertical at the surface but having an 18 pounder wing probably is a wee bit small for big waves. Waves we splashing on my face then.. I just put in the snorkle in my mouth and everythng is fine afterwards.


snorkel?

whack the regulator ler....guarantee no water will go in.

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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#38  Postby reen » Mon May 26, 2008 5:52 pm

ahahaha..lara want to simpan the air la tuuu..
ok then ..thanx a lot for the info...thus means one must be very familiar with their BCD
before taking it into action..
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#39  Postby dp » Mon May 26, 2008 5:57 pm

reen wrote:ahahaha..lara want to simpan the air la tuuu..
ok then ..thanx a lot for the info...thus means one must be very familiar with their BCD
before taking it into action..




yuppers. always test and familiarise urself with your new 'toys' in the pool before going into the sea.
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#40  Postby Snafu » Mon May 26, 2008 8:49 pm

For Malaysia sea state condition I would advice divers to use 30lbs minimum lift.

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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#41  Postby nanda666 » Tue May 27, 2008 8:23 am

hmmmm......lucky I posted this thread huh?

I guess there are quite a few things to consider before getting this "cool" BCD.. B-) B-)
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#42  Postby reen » Tue May 27, 2008 9:41 am

actually when it comes to rescue mission or bringing students i guess a jacket BCD would be appropriate to use compare to wings but all depends to
owners itself. If the person can master its own BCD, i guess any kind of situation is no prob for them. :icon_tongue:

wings still have it advantages..its only a little tricky when using it in choppy wheather.
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#43  Postby LaraCroft » Tue May 27, 2008 10:03 am

Syed K. A. wrote:For Malaysia sea state condition I would advice divers to use 30lbs minimum lift.

:D


Aiyoo Sifu.. does this mean I should be thinking of getting a 30 pounder wing???? Hmmm...  :dontknow: :dontknow: :sad1:
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#44  Postby irukandji » Tue May 27, 2008 1:06 pm

nanda666 wrote:
During the rescue diver training, a friend of mine had the "wing" type BCD and this caused some problems during the equipment removal/rescue breathing exercise. Has anyone else experienced this?



I got this trick from my instructor when removing 'wing' type BCD-

  • Make sure the buckle is released and the crotch strap is detached.
  • Pull the shoulder straps off the shoulder
  • Release the air in the bladder

The BC will just fall off the diver after that.  ;)

reen wrote:May i know ..how is it u guys deal during choppy seas using the wing BCD ??
incase such a case happens laa..of course we are uw..but if we need to be
at the surface.. is there a technique??


Normally, to remain vertical on the surface, I'd just inflate the bladder just enough for my head to stay out of the water. Inflating the bladder fully will push me foward sometimes, but a kick and leaning back will solve the problem.

Snorkle or regulator in mouth works for me during really huge surge. Hope this helps! B-)
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#45  Postby dp » Tue May 27, 2008 1:12 pm

nanda666 wrote:hmmmm......lucky I posted this thread huh?

I guess there are quite a few things to consider before getting this "cool" BCD.. B-) B-)


Bro, i think "looking cool" should be the last thing to consider (or at all) when deciding on this system.



But then again, to each his own.

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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#46  Postby Mephisto the Heretic » Tue May 27, 2008 1:22 pm

nanda666 wrote:hmmmm......lucky I posted this thread huh?

I guess there are quite a few things to consider before getting this "cool" BCD.. B-) B-)


yup. you are correct there.

please consider before buying, regardless of jacket or backplate.

its like buying a sports car, you wants power, handling, image but you have to compromise on bootspace, 2 seats only, no aircond, no sound insulation, and sometimes no roof....what a man to do....heheheh
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#47  Postby reen » Tue May 27, 2008 2:14 pm

irukanji wrote:
Normally, to remain vertical on the surface, I'd just inflate the bladder just enough for my head to stay out of the water. Inflating the bladder fully will push me foward sometimes, but a kick and leaning back will solve the problem.

Snorkle or regulator in mouth works for me during really huge surge. Hope this helps! B-)



Yup irukanji..i did ask one of the sales person over at rainbow runner on how to have
a better position on surface of the water..he did say the same thing..
so it seems the technique is the same in here
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#48  Postby Divejohor » Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:23 pm

Hi Nanda...
Wing BCD,s have many advantages compared to regular jacket type BCD,s.
1.Wings are interchangeable making switching to twin tanks easy.
2.Bigger wings means more lift in tricky situations (rough surface)
3.Less drag underwater since front surface area is reduced.
4.lots of D rings for smb,s clips ,lift bag ,stage tank,spare mask,camera etc
5.Better Buoyancy since wing is at top of tank giving you a better swimming position and less drag.

If you would like a first hand tryout with a wing type BCD you are welcome
to try out one of my units at the daiman johor jaya sports complex JB
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#49  Postby Scuba Dynamics » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:00 pm

Totally agree!

Check out greyreefshark's offer and I can assure that you will not regret the change over from BCD to Wings and if your budget allows it, you should consider the Halcyon system.

Sorry greyreefshark, but am not trying to "potong trip" here
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#50  Postby JD » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:21 pm

Scuba Dynamics wrote:Totally agree!

Check out greyreefshark's offer and I can assure that you will not regret the change over from BCD to Wings and if your budget allows it, you should consider the Halcyon system.

Sorry greyreefshark, but am not trying to "potong trip" here


Yo Henry....you selling 'wings to all the beasts'nowdays iszit...? Dealer somemore.......... :) :) :)
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#51  Postby jade » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:22 pm

Is anybody using the DUI Intrepid Explorer? Juz wondering what's the performance like...

There are too many brands out there - Halcyon, Oxycheq, OMS, Zeagle, etc... any recommendation on which is better? [-(
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#52  Postby Scuba Dynamics » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:38 pm

Yo Henry....you selling 'wings to all the beasts'nowdays iszit...? Dealer somemore.......... :) :) :)

Better than that I have switched over to wings :laughing11: :laughing11: Have to keep up with the times lah, correct Pak Cik??
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#53  Postby Bluemoon » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:48 pm

jade wrote:Is anybody using the DUI Intrepid Explorer? Juz wondering what's the performance like...

There are too many brands out there - Halcyon, Oxycheq, OMS, Zeagle, etc... any recommendation on which is better? [-(


The best is if you can borrow from others member to try it out yourself....and compare which design and system suit you...cheers..!!
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#54  Postby Ery » Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:51 pm

jade wrote:Is anybody using the DUI Intrepid Explorer? Juz wondering what's the performance like...

There are too many brands out there - Halcyon, Oxycheq, OMS, Zeagle, etc... any recommendation on which is better? [-(


This is my very own testimonial.
I wud say "I LOVE MY NEW TOY and the name is Halcyon"  :angel8: <---check out the wings  :D
recently bought it from Scuba Dynamics (ehemm Henry, dun forget my commision heh)
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#55  Postby Scuba Dynamics » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:11 am

Way to go my friend, HALCYON -THE ONLY WAY TO GO... Commissions can talk later ar?? :laughing11:
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#56  Postby Nizaha » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:43 am

ery wrote:
jade wrote:Is anybody using the DUI Intrepid Explorer? Juz wondering what's the performance like...

There are too many brands out there - Halcyon, Oxycheq, OMS, Zeagle, etc... any recommendation on which is better? [-(


This is my very own testimonial.
I wud say "I LOVE MY NEW TOY and the name is Halcyon"  :angel8: <---check out the wings  :D
recently bought it from Scuba Dynamics (ehemm Henry, dun forget my commision heh)


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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#57  Postby huisen » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:56 am

I certified OW with a borrowed jacket BCD but bought a wing a little while after getting certified. A couple of factors at hand: 1. Only 9 dives so far - inexperienced, 2. My new wing has never gotten wet. (Pool session to test new equipment next week, laa....)

It's been hanging in the closet for nearly a month now. Haven't had the time to test it. So you can imagine I've been watching this discussion about wings vs jackets with much interest. Thanks to everyone who had an opinion and for all the input. It's been very informative.
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#58  Postby nanda666 » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:38 am

You're welcome!!

And I agree, it's been really informative and I would just like to sum it up:

Wing BCD

The Pro's:

1. It's light.
2. It's compact.
3. It provides freedom of movement. (good for photographers)
4. Good streamlining effect.
5. Not forgeting......LOOKS COOL.  B-)

The cons:

1. May not have suffucient lift on surface. (18lbs vs 30lbs??)
2. No pockets. (Not good for instructors) (Newbies who need Xtra weights during dives...??)
3. Different harness system. (Buddy familiarisation required for safety)
4. May cost a little bit more $$$.

guys, feel free to add here if I missed any main points!!  :) 
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#59  Postby Sicko » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:28 am

nanda666 wrote:You're welcome!!

And I agree, it's been really informative and I would just like to sum it up:

Wing BCD

The Pro's:

1. It's light.
2. It's compact.
3. It provides freedom of movement. (good for photographers)
4. Good streamlining effect.
5. Not forgeting......LOOKS COOL.  B-)

The cons:

1. May not have suffucient lift on surface. (18lbs vs 30lbs??)
2. No pockets. (Not good for instructors) (Newbies who need Xtra weights during dives...??)
3. Different harness system. (Buddy familiarisation required for safety)
4. May cost a little bit more $$$.

guys, feel free to add here if I missed any main points!!  :)   

Hi nanda,

30lbs is more than enough lift for single tank diving.
A small sized oceanic cabo bcd has only got about 20lbs lift.

Some jacket BCDs are even more expensive than wing type BCds......believe it or not!
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Re: Why use wing BCD????

Post Number:#60  Postby nanda666 » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:02 am

Just completed the confined water section of the IDC rescue section and my buddy with the "Wing" BCD was having some problems doing the rescue breathing as the wing BCD seem to be pushing him into difficult positions.

Any advice? [-(
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