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5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#1  Postby bobo » Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:02 pm

Although lama nye advise but still can be adpated to new digital uw world.

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5 Ways to Improve Your Photographs

I hear this question a lot: "How can I take better pictures?" The answer is too long and unpredictable to be able to write it down, but there are some things you can do to improve that are pretty reliable. So without ado, here are the 5 things you can do that I think are most likely to help you.

1. Be Critical
This is easily the most important way to improve your photographs. What it boils down to is this: you can't fix it if you don't know it's broken. You have to inspect your photographs closely, and be really harsh with your own work. If something is wrong with the photograph, don't rationalize it. Figure out what you did wrong, and what you should have done differently, and what you have to do better the next time. If you want to improve your evaluation skills, read the section on evaluting photographs.

Also, when you look in dive magazines and you see a picture you really like, go get the picture of yours that is closest in appearance and subject to it. Compare them. Look at the overall exposure of your photo and the one from the magazine. Is the water color the same in yours? How about the strobe lighting? Is your subject too bright, too dark, or just too harshly shadowed? What about composition? Is your subject centered, but the pro's wasn't? Did the pro find some element of composition that you missed? Maybe you like yours better (hey--just because they're professionals doesn't mean they're perfect). If so, why?

2. Learn Proper Strobe Positioning
Strobe positioning is something that takes time to master, but it's important. Proper strobe positioning gets you two really important things: less backscatter, and light that looks natural in your pictures.

If you have a snapshot camera and don't already have a strobe for it, buy one. Even if the strobe is not positionable, getting it away from the camera will help your pictures immensely.

3. Get Close
I read a truly hilarious statement from another photographer one time (I forget who): "Great underwater photography, step 1: remove as much water as possible." While pithy, it's true. Getting closer to your subject gives less water to cause backscatter, gives less water for optical distortions, and makes for brighter colors from your strobe. It also fills more of the frame with the subject, which is rarely a bad thing. The farthest you should ever be from your subject is 6 feet, unless the subject is huge and you just don't have a choice. If you have to be farther than 6 feet (bih kurang 2 meter) from your subject, save yourself some grief and turn off your strobe. It's not going to get you any color anyway, and the backscatter will likely kill your picture.

4. Shoot up
This is a critical thing that many uw photographers forget to do. If you shoot "down" on your subject, you get flat, low-separation images that make the subject blend into the background. By putting the surface behind your subject, instead of the floor, you get a subject that stands out from the background, free of charge  ;D. You also get the chance to work with Snell's Window(photoshop la either Low Yat or ori), which is a neat compositional tool.

If your subject is a fish, it's less likely to flee if you are below (above kot) it.

So remember: stay below your subject, if possible.

5. Film is Cheap Memory card is cheap
The only way to practice your skills is to take pictures. Film Memory card is cheap, and dive travel is not. If there's a shot you really want and you're not exactly sure about the aperture/shutter/strobe power settings, [highlight]bracket[/highlight]. If you're not sure of the composition, shoot from a couple of different angles & positions.
If you're curious about whether a given shot is going to work, take the shot and find out. Don't be afraid to experiment, and don't fear bad results. [highlight]Bad results are stepping stones on the way to good results![/highlight]
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#2  Postby bobo » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:59 pm

for underwater shooters, can read and learn.
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#3  Postby asriali » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:41 pm

for underwater shooters, can read and learn.


strobes generally work on synchro with your camera's flash right?  So other people's flash can trigger it as well kan?

what's the price like for a basic strobe and arm and bracket?  i've never really surveyed due to the ones i've seen many years ago cost more than the camera itself!
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#4  Postby bobo » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:36 pm

Click here http://malaysianunderwater.com/Forums/Y ... 079657/0#0

Use optical cable, so someone flash will not triggered your strobe.
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#5  Postby asriali » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:45 pm

erk... masih mahal rupanya  :)

will need my Mcgyver cap for the Redang trip la like this...
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#6  Postby zimm » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:19 pm

hye......tks for the information......not that cheap gak eik to go into photography  [smiley=shocked.gif] x per la....i enjoy with what i hv at the moment......after all kita nk dive lama so its goin to be a long term plan........sikit2 lama2 jadi bukit......to start off.....i need a strobe  [smiley=cry.gif]
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Post Number:#7  Postby asriali » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:47 pm

hye......tks for the information......not that cheap gak eik to go into photography  [smiley=shocked.gif] x per la....i enjoy with what i hv at the moment......after all kita nk dive lama so its goin to be a long term plan........sikit2 lama2 jadi bukit......to start off.....i need a strobe  [smiley=cry.gif]


boleh pinjam nanti  ;)

myself devising something instead... hopefully siap in time for the Redang trip
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Post Number:#8  Postby zimm » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:15 pm

hye......tks for the information......not that cheap gak eik to go into photography  [smiley=shocked.gif] x per la....i enjoy with what i hv at the moment......after all kita nk dive lama so its goin to be a long term plan........sikit2 lama2 jadi bukit......to start off.....i need a strobe  [smiley=cry.gif]


boleh pinjam nanti  ;)

myself devising something instead... hopefully siap in time for the Redang trip
erm.....if ur devise works......i la yg nk pinjam for redang  ;)
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#9  Postby anas » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:11 pm

myself devising something instead... hopefully siap in time for the Redang trip


Atuk, a lot of things started out by someone devising something for their own use. In this case people like Dean Garraffa. Who knows, people like you can create something nice for all of us to use. After all, you are one good-looking fella and can be very marketable. :-)
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Post Number:#10  Postby asriali » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:41 pm

hye......tks for the information......not that cheap gak eik to go into photography  [smiley=shocked.gif] x per la....i enjoy with what i hv at the moment......after all kita nk dive lama so its goin to be a long term plan........sikit2 lama2 jadi bukit......to start off.....i need a strobe  [smiley=cry.gif]


boleh pinjam nanti  ;)

myself devising something instead... hopefully siap in time for the Redang trip
erm.....if ur devise works......i la yg nk pinjam for redang  ;)


boleh... kalau it works boleh buat masspro... budget around RM150 jer...
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#11  Postby asriali » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:50 pm

myself devising something instead... hopefully siap in time for the Redang trip


Atuk, a lot of things started out by someone devising something for their own use. In this case people like Dean Garraffa. Who knows, people like you can create something nice for all of us to use. After all, you are one good-looking fella and can be very marketable. :-)


ni lain macam jer ayat nih...
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#12  Postby Yates » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:42 pm

Atok,
True... lepas tu you can put your signature on the product....
Needs some ind design input can get it from me  ;)
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#13  Postby Jim » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:52 pm

Atok,
True... lepas tu you can put your signature on the product....
Needs some ind design input can get it from me  ;)



....plus 25% comm.... hehehehe
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#14  Postby SuperKingKong® » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:33 am

bobo wrote:Click here http://malaysianunderwater.com/Forums/Y ... 079657/0#0

Use optical cable, so someone flash will not triggered your strobe.


the link is not working... can mod correct it? .... thanks :)
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#15  Postby Bobo® » Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:55 pm

SuperKingKong® wrote:
bobo wrote:Click here http://malaysianunderwater.com/Forums/Y ... 079657/0#0

Use optical cable, so someone flash will not triggered your strobe.


the link is not working... can mod correct it? .... thanks :)


its a engine transfer glitch.. what link u referring too..?? maybe can do search...
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#16  Postby Nitrogen addict » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:54 pm

As for me to improve my underwater photo is to get my own CAMERA hahhahahah :smileinbox: :glasses9:
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Post Number:#17  Postby Ery » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:03 pm

thanks bobo for the guidelines. very useful for newbie like me..  ;)
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Post Number:#18  Postby Nazir Amin » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:05 pm

Bobo,

any advice on strobe positioning  :P
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#19  Postby Bobo® » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:18 pm

4321 wrote:Bobo,

any advice on strobe positioning  :P


some say strobe shuld be position slanting so that the light would be X ing each other, but for me, i just position the strobe straight ahead now crossing or X ing, and it work fine for me, n backscatter, not dome shining. everything is ok.
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#20  Postby SuperKingKong® » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:14 pm

bobo wrote:
SuperKingKong® wrote:
bobo wrote:Click here http://malaysianunderwater.com/Forums/Y ... 079657/0#0

Use optical cable, so someone flash will not triggered your strobe.


the link is not working... can mod correct it? .... thanks :)


its a engine transfer glitch.. what link u referring too..?? maybe can do search...




this one... http://malaysianunderwater.com/Forums/Y ... 079657/0#0

the link you've posted...
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Re: 5 ways to improve your uwphotograph

Post Number:#21  Postby Sphyrna » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:13 pm

Some tips to share.

Using ADOBE photoshop application.

Colour Pop.
-Easy steps.
1.Copy photo
2.Go to image>mode>choose lab colour
3.command M/alt m>select A.
4.drag (max20) both points equally.
5.Apply to B as well.Click ok.
6.Reduce opacity to 75%.
7.There u go.The magic result!
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hello...

Post Number:#22  Postby ain » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:35 pm

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hellooo...every one..,
can i know new programme... :smileinbox:
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