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Post Number:#1  Postby MazAmi » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:25 am

Anybody been on the DIR course?.....interested to learn about DIR finning techniques using the old-styled scubapro jet fins. You can fin without disturbing the bottom sediment, rotate on a 10 sen coin and even reverse! Good for wreckies and techies. I have seen people doing it on the DIR course....but it was just too expensive for me.
Can teach for free ah?
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Post Number:#2  Postby SeaDemon » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:09 am

IMO, it doesn't really matter what fins you use as long as they're not split fins (I may be wrong, I've never used split fins before). Personally, I use a MARES Volo even when doing tech diving..as long as I'm not in a hurry, employing the finning methods you mention. Even if you use the Scubapro jet-fins you'll kick up sediment if you employ the wrong techniques and have poor buoyancy.

The techniques are: frog, modified frog, modified flutter, back-kick (you'll need the jet-fins to execute this properly), helicopter turn, full stop etc. I normally use frog and modified frog, the latter if I do swim throughs or when I hover 3"-6" above the bottom so as not to stir the sediment...

As for turning on the dime employing helicopter turn, I don't find that very useful when I'm in a tight spot in a wreck somewhere. I have my fingers in my gloves, I'll use them to turn. I use it when I do UW photography/videography when the subject moves not too far to my south.

As for teaching for free, yeah, sure can. As long as you pay for my dives, accommodation, meals, boat transfer, toll and fuel costs  ;D
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Post Number:#3  Postby Jim » Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:16 am

Anybody been on the DIR course?.....interested to learn about DIR finning techniques using the old-styled scubapro jet fins. You can fin without disturbing the bottom sediment, rotate on a 10 sen coin and even reverse! Good for wreckies and techies. I have seen people doing it on the DIR course....but it was just too expensive for me.
Can teach for free ah?



ppsstt... bro, next time kat Hj Don Damas remind me about this...
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Post Number:#4  Postby ikan » Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:30 am

SD .. i have to concur with u with regards to split fin, am using one myself, it is very easy on the legs, propulsion is there if u got the right technique but manueveribility wise it is just not there ...
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Post Number:#5  Postby nazimkecik » Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:58 am

love my split ::) just gotta practice practice practice..frog, modified frog, modified flutter, back-kick..no problem..

SD .. i have to concur with u with regards to split fin, am using one myself, it is very easy on the legs, propulsion is there if u got the right technique but manueveribility wise it is just not there ...
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Post Number:#6  Postby anas » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:21 am

SD .. i have to concur with u with regards to split fin, am using one myself, it is very easy on the legs, propulsion is there if u got the right technique but manueveribility wise it is just not there ...



ehh.. that day u tried force fin... tak suka ke? ;-)
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Post Number:#7  Postby ikan » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:37 am

Nazim

I got no problem with my split fins ... but u got to admit manouveribility wise, kalah hands down to jet fins and force fins laaa bro


Sheikh

the force fins works great mannnn ... but sizing problem la bro ... didnt find bigger size than urs one ... else dah samabar dah satu .. hehehhehe .. kena banyak hands on lagi ni
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Post Number:#8  Postby SeaDemon » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:41 am

love my split ::) just gotta practice practice practice..frog, modified frog, modified flutter, back-kick..no problem..

SD .. i have to concur with u with regards to split fin, am using one myself, it is very easy on the legs, propulsion is there if u got the right technique but manueveribility wise it is just not there ...



I think with 6 tanks on you, you will have problems ;)
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Post Number:#9  Postby nazimkecik » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:49 am

Bro..i think split fin only lose at frog kick la in terms of speed..flutter kalo bye bye jet fin specially in current. all the other kicks i believe split can do, back reverse, frog etc, but flutter is where it excels..i'm using apollo XT by the way (stiffer version).

On the other hand Force fin memang 'top dog' la..that one i will put my hands down..semua pun boleh..damn good fin..fast, short, light, comfy..just cost too much..


Nazim

I got no problem with my split fins ... but u got to admit manouveribility wise, kalah hands down to jet fins and force fins laaa bro


Sheikh

the force fins works great mannnn ... but sizing problem la bro ... didnt find bigger size than urs one ... else dah samabar dah satu .. hehehhehe .. kena banyak hands on lagi ni
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Post Number:#10  Postby nazimkecik » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:50 am

For the kind of diving i'm doing it is perfect :) same case like jacket BC for recreational diving is good and cheap  ;D

love my split ::) just gotta practice practice practice..frog, modified frog, modified flutter, back-kick..no problem..

SD .. i have to concur with u with regards to split fin, am using one myself, it is very easy on the legs, propulsion is there if u got the right technique but manueveribility wise it is just not there ...



I think with 6 tanks on you, you will have problems ;)
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Post Number:#11  Postby leafbug » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:21 pm

love my split ::) just gotta practice practice practice..frog, modified frog, modified flutter, back-kick..no problem..

SD .. i have to concur with u with regards to split fin, am using one myself, it is very easy on the legs, propulsion is there if u got the right technique but manueveribility wise it is just not there ...



I think with 6 tanks on you, you will have problems ;)


6 tanks? then pakai jet-scooter je la bro! :D
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Post Number:#12  Postby anas » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:08 am

Nazim

I got no problem with my split fins ... but u got to admit manouveribility wise, kalah hands down to jet fins and force fins laaa bro


Sheikh

the force fins works great mannnn ... but sizing problem la bro ... didnt find bigger size than urs one ... else dah samabar dah satu .. hehehhehe .. kena banyak hands on lagi ni


Seasir just got a pair of those. You might wanna try his.
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Post Number:#13  Postby Jim » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:17 am

eh Sheik... can try yr ff next time?
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Post Number:#14  Postby Snafu » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:07 am

Hi Aquaholic,

Next time you go diving or go to the pool ... talk to the divers & ask them questions about their finning technique.

You will learn a lot more by doing it & is free.

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Re: Finning techniques

Post Number:#15  Postby sheik » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:52 am

eh Sheik... can try yr ff next time?


For you, Jim, sure can.
At the same time, may I tell you that I know there is a pair of public FF. Anyone can use those also. I used those before (only a few times ;-))after deciding to get on my own.

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Post Number:#16  Postby Mephisto the Heretic » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:42 pm

for me personally i prefer a pair of 93 cm fins with hard profile blades doing the dolphin.......releks beb...a fibreglass mono looks nice also...

currently trying a pair of RM 40 Speedo hand paddles....susah nak drive beb...jetfin pun kalah...heh
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Post Number:#17  Postby HoleMaster » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:07 pm

For me after changing to jet fins...im damn satisfied compared to my scubapro razor which sucks big time when strong current. The downside, its heavier. Was really surprised with the performance. Remembered when i had to lead a group where those ppl couldnt cope up and eventually lost them. On surface, they complained i was too fast but i thought to myself that i was goin damn slow.....only then i knew the propulsion was so good.  
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Post Number:#18  Postby putradiver » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:09 pm

M waiting to test the Deepoutdoors Six Gill fins sometime next week.  Will let u guys know...
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Post Number:#19  Postby Cher » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:10 am

For me after changing to jet fins...im damn satisfied compared to my scubapro razor which sucks big time when strong current. The downside, its heavier. Was really surprised with the performance. Remembered when i had to lead a group where those ppl couldnt cope up and eventually lost them. On surface, they complained i was too fast but i thought to myself that i was goin damn slow.....only then i knew the propulsion was so good.  


Hhahahah DM, if you were referring to us, it's not that we couldnt keep up lah.. We stopped to look at something, but you went ahead. The moment we started to move again, you were nowhere in sight. And the vis was utterly baaaaaaaaaaaad.. we couldnt see you..  ::) Maka bermula lah operasi mencari DM hee hee hee
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Post Number:#20  Postby Snafu » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:21 am

DM should been alert when guiding .. has nothing to do with finning technique.

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Post Number:#21  Postby John F SeaDemon » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:05 pm

DM should been alert when guiding .. has nothing to do with finning technique.

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Post Number:#22  Postby LaraCroft » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:25 pm

For me after changing to jet fins...im damn satisfied compared to my scubapro razor which sucks big time when strong current. The downside, its heavier. Was really surprised with the performance. Remembered when i had to lead a group where those ppl couldnt cope up and eventually lost them. On surface, they complained i was too fast but i thought to myself that i was goin damn slow.....only then i knew the propulsion was so good.  


Hhahahah DM, if you were referring to us, it's not that we couldnt keep up lah.. We stopped to look at something, but you went ahead. The moment we started to move again, you were nowhere in sight. And the vis was utterly baaaaaaaaaaaad.. we couldnt see you..  ::) Maka bermula lah operasi mencari DM hee hee hee


I remember that incident soooooooo.. well.  ;D :D ;)
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Post Number:#23  Postby HoleMaster » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:21 pm

DM should been alert when guiding .. has nothing to do with finning technique.

;D

;D ;D ;D ;)


Yup u r right, should be more alert when guiding. That incident happened during my DMT ie training. Alot of comments and guidance were received during training, of which is invaluable. We dont just learn from books or teaching but also from our mistakes...that what makes u a better diver isnt it? ;)
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Post Number:#24  Postby LaraCroft » Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:20 pm

DM should been alert when guiding .. has nothing to do with finning technique.

;D

;D ;D ;D ;)


Yup u r right, should be more alert when guiding. That incident happened during my DMT ie training. Alot of comments and guidance were received during training, of which is invaluable. We dont just learn from books or teaching but also from our mistakes...that what makes u a better diver isnt it? ;)


Exactly!! Words and wisdom from a True DM. So DM.. please teach me how to fin the turbo way can ahh..?? Dont wanna be left behind again and again lar..
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Post Number:#25  Postby Cher » Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:32 pm

DM should been alert when guiding .. has nothing to do with finning technique.

;D

;D ;D ;D ;)


Yup u r right, should be more alert when guiding. That incident happened during my DMT ie training. Alot of comments and guidance were received during training, of which is invaluable. We dont just learn from books or teaching but also from our mistakes...that what makes u a better diver isnt it? ;)


Heheheh No lah.. it wasnt that you were not alert, the vis was very the baddest... it aint your fault la bro.. :-* ;)
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Post Number:#26  Postby Atuk » Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:35 pm

For me after changing to jet fins...im damn satisfied compared to my scubapro razor which sucks big time when strong current. The downside, its heavier. Was really surprised with the performance. Remembered when i had to lead a group where those ppl couldnt cope up and eventually lost them. On surface, they complained i was too fast but i thought to myself that i was goin damn slow.....only then i knew the propulsion was so good.  


Hhahahah DM, if you were referring to us, it's not that we couldnt keep up lah.. We stopped to look at something, but you went ahead. The moment we started to move again, you were nowhere in sight. And the vis was utterly baaaaaaaaaaaad.. we couldnt see you..  ::) Maka bermula lah operasi mencari DM hee hee hee


if only you knew how concerned pinkfins was masa tu.... pantang dengar 'knocking', will assume it was you and ajak the rest of us pegi carik.... ;D
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Re: Finning techniques

Post Number:#27  Postby Cher » Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:58 pm

For me after changing to jet fins...im damn satisfied compared to my scubapro razor which sucks big time when strong current. The downside, its heavier. Was really surprised with the performance. Remembered when i had to lead a group where those ppl couldnt cope up and eventually lost them. On surface, they complained i was too fast but i thought to myself that i was goin damn slow.....only then i knew the propulsion was so good.  


Hhahahah DM, if you were referring to us, it's not that we couldnt keep up lah.. We stopped to look at something, but you went ahead. The moment we started to move again, you were nowhere in sight. And the vis was utterly baaaaaaaaaaaad.. we couldnt see you..  ::) Maka bermula lah operasi mencari DM hee hee hee


if only you knew how concerned pinkfins was masa tu.... pantang dengar 'knocking', will assume it was you and ajak the rest of us pegi carik.... ;D


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Post Number:#28  Postby Atuk » Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:40 pm


Exactly!! Words and wisdom from a True DM. So DM.. please teach me how to fin the turbo way can ahh..?? Dont wanna be left behind again and again lar..


Lara, be proactive... keep a lookout for the DM instead.  If he/she syok sendiri moving too far ahead, use a tank banger etc to call him/her to wait for you  ;D
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Post Number:#29  Postby LaraCroft » Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:19 pm


Exactly!! Words and wisdom from a True DM. So DM.. please teach me how to fin the turbo way can ahh..?? Dont wanna be left behind again and again lar..


Lara, be proactive... keep a lookout for the DM instead.  If he/she syok sendiri moving too far ahead, use a tank banger etc to call him/her to wait for you  ;D


But.. but.. Atuuukk..  I was the one that was RIGHT behind him.. :'(
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Re: Finning techniques

Post Number:#30  Postby John F SeaDemon » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:50 pm


Exactly!! Words and wisdom from a True DM. So DM.. please teach me how to fin the turbo way can ahh..?? Dont wanna be left behind again and again lar..


Lara, be proactive... keep a lookout for the DM instead.  If he/she syok sendiri moving too far ahead, use a tank banger etc to call him/her to wait for you  ;D


Use the tank banger and bang the DM la..but anyway, while it's fun to talk about banging techniques, the thread is about finning techniques  ;)
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