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Lets ask Mr. Commercial Diver

Post Number:#1  Postby nazimkecik » Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:28 pm

Wei Mr Commercial Diver..share la some info...snaf snaf... ;D :D
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Re: Lets ask Mr. Commercial Diver

Post Number:#2  Postby SeaDemon » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:41 pm

Kalau lu berlakon iklan condom kat dalam air pun kira commercial diver gak...do commercials
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Post Number:#3  Postby bigjoe74 » Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:01 pm

Kalau lu berlakon iklan condom kat dalam air pun kira commercial diver gak...do commercials

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post Number:#4  Postby GOD » Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:21 pm

Betul tu kata SeaDemon, as long as U get paid u r a commercial diver.

I will try to provide more information on Commercial Diving & jobs surrounding it soon.

Thinking of providing information from the very beginning.... how to start.

If Mr. BigJoe74 can find sometime to provide some information, please do so ...... he been in the industry for a long time.

;D
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Post Number:#5  Postby SeaDemon » Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:40 pm

Betul tu kata SeaDemon, as long as U get paid u r a commercial diver.

I will try to provide more information on Commercial Diving & jobs surrounding it soon.

Thinking of providing information from the very beginning.... how to start.

If Mr. BigJoe74 can find sometime to provide some information, please do so ...... he been in the industry for a long time.

;D


Actually la...in a way..kan? Kalau kerja kat darat nak kena ada OSHA, kerja kat laut pun kena ada OSHA, even for part-timers (city-based DMs, Instructors etc) as temporary contract workers kat darat do. Baru ada standard to follow tak kira dari mana...like your job. So for your kind of job kena re-term as Commercial Saturation Divers.

But as for this topic, kita stick to yur kind of job so you and Bigjoe can fill in and maybe the younger divers may want to venture and feel for themselves what it is like being at sea for 90-odd days and young Indian engineers always unzipping your fly after watching blue movies  ;D :o
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Post Number:#6  Postby GOD » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:29 am

In general.. 2 types of Commercial Diver

1. Air Diver
- Surface Supply Limit up to 50m on air
- Helium/Oxygen are use at times

2. Saturation Diver
- 50m below & on Helium/Oxygen


Need to start as Air Diver first ..... then take another course to become Saturation Diver.

Both have Chamber, Air Diver use the chamber for treatment & Saturation diver use chamber as Living Enviroment.

Air Diver work mostly at mid water, Sat Diver work at bottom.

Air Diver have time restriction, deeper you go...less time you have on the job so you need to work fast.

Sat diver have more time ... 8-12hrs each bell run, 4-6 hours work time for Sat diver.

Will add more from time to time, this is just a general information... if you have any question, feel free to ask.

;D
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Post Number:#7  Postby SeaDemon » Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:49 pm

So Air Diver ni adik-beradik Extended Range diver la..bin/binti aje lain :-?
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Post Number:#8  Postby GOD » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:13 pm

So Air Diver ni adik-beradik Extended Range diver la..bin/binti aje lain :-?



Something like dat la .... heheheheheheheheheee

;D
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Post Number:#9  Postby bigjoe74 » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:02 pm

So Air Diver ni adik-beradik Extended Range diver la..bin/binti aje lain :-?



Something like dat la .... heheheheheheheheheee

;D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Dkira bolehlah tu...
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Post Number:#10  Postby flying_tapir » Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:09 am

nak amik course camtuh nak kena amik kat ne?..nak jadi air diver or saturation?..rase cam dah malas la idup asik atas darat je... ;)
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Post Number:#11  Postby ironore » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:43 am

commercial diver ni not necessarily works offshore kan.. but if wanna work offshore camne nak start..

i got myself enroll buat Tropical Water Basic Offshore Safety Induction Emergency Training (T-Bosiet) kat CONSIST Ulu Klang tu.. best jugak course kat situ n got me expose to offshore working life.. but nak tau jugak further detail..
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Post Number:#12  Postby SeaDemon » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:29 pm

commercial diver ni not necessarily works offshore kan.. but if wanna work offshore camne nak start..

i got myself enroll buat Tropical Water Basic Offshore Safety Induction Emergency Training (T-Bosiet) kat CONSIST Ulu Klang tu.. best jugak course kat situ n got me expose to offshore working life.. but nak tau jugak further detail..




Ironore, how much did it cost you to attend the course?
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Post Number:#13  Postby ironore » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:44 pm

2k gak bro...

i was told to keep the receipt can claim once dapat job offshore.. ok la kot for a certificate certified by Offshore Petroleum Industry Training Organization (OPITO) validity 4 years lak tu..
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Post Number:#14  Postby GOD » Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:14 pm

Ironore,

What job you plan to do offhsore?

I am working Offshore in India doing subsea construction now, so late reply.
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Post Number:#15  Postby ironore » Mon Dec 25, 2006 12:56 pm

namaste..

yo... snafu brader... welcome back online... been waiting for ur reply la bro..  planning to join the underwater working team like u.. need better understanding of the whole scenario la brater.. can email u ka?

vanakam..
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Post Number:#16  Postby GOD » Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:28 pm

Please ask Mocha for my offshore email address & instruction how to email me there.

He knows what to do, as for me..I dont even know my offshore email address.

Just make sure at the subject... (ask mocha about it)
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Post Number:#17  Postby ironore » Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:36 pm

ok bro.. will get it from him...  ;) ;)

(ni m in Mid valley waiting for 2pm movie Happy Feet with anak2 menakan... online jap n tadaaa..
snafu is online..)

inland or offshore ur are bro.. now?
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Post Number:#18  Postby GOD » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:27 am

I am at Panna Field Offshore in India
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Post Number:#19  Postby SeaDemon » Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:06 pm

Harlow Snafu...amacam...been watching blue videos with young Indian engineers again lately?
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Post Number:#20  Postby wing0112 » Fri May 04, 2007 8:47 am

i think should we start a columm of helping ppl to get job as commercial divers. I am interested in the 50m diver.. bley tengok ship wreck..... and earn some money.. wif info please indicate yeah.. looking for extra cash now...
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Post Number:#21  Postby SeaDemon » Fri May 04, 2007 11:17 am

i think should we start a columm of helping ppl to get job as commercial divers. I am interested in the 50m diver.. bley tengok ship wreck..... and earn some money.. wif info please indicate yeah.. looking for extra cash now...


Hehee...becoming a commercial diver means diving in conditions where you DON'T get to see anything. You want to go to 50m and see wrecks, do technical diving. ;) ;D
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Post Number:#22  Postby zzz » Fri May 04, 2007 1:11 pm

SD. is it true that tech divers get all the rush from preparing from a dive... I mean they spend hours preparing for a short (how long is your bottom time at 50M??) excursion into the water...

What is the fun in all that?? :-?
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Post Number:#23  Postby wing0112 » Fri May 04, 2007 1:54 pm

yeah i know tat.. when doin commercial u wont see anything. technical diver.. i think it cost a lot rite the course and equipment.

my fren told me once tat her abang is part time commercial diver at kuantan. so just 1 2 find out more info. looks like earning quite good but of course in return... ur life.... as always need to go to chamber... once u kena chamber.... u will have risk in getting DCS easily....
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Post Number:#24  Postby SeaDemon » Fri May 04, 2007 2:59 pm

SD. is it true that tech divers get all the rush from preparing from a dive... I mean they spend hours preparing for a short (how long is your bottom time at 50M??) excursion into the water...

What is the fun in all that?? :-?


How long? It depends on your SAC rate. If it's about 15 liters/min then the twin tanks should last you 48 minutes. However, since you have to do gas management planning plus having to spare your air for your buddy as well, then probably about 24-25 minutes tops before you start your deco stops.

What is the fun in all that? It gives you the rush...checking your equipment because your life and that of your buddy depends on YOUR equipment. You get to see wrecks of battleships and other warships that look as if time had stopped. You can imagine the crew running here and there doing damage control and at the same time being blown to bits by the bombs the Japanese aircraft drop. You can see the huge torpedo holes on the Repulse and know how it looked like as it steamed at 14 knots as it disappeared beneath the waves.

Then you start your way back to the ascent line and commence your deco stops according to your run times. Curious whale shark stop by to check you out....followed by a school of 2m Cobias...and then schools of Batfish. You reach 21m you switch to your EAN50...at 6m you switch to 100% O2 and you watch your depth...at 3m you're on the deco station breathing surface-supplied oxygen. Cool stuff.

Topside, as you relax while still breathing O2, you have a look at your camera playback, you see 15-inch guns, you see anti-aircraft guns, you see the lifeboats, you see the gigantic propellers, rudders, torpedo holes..and you smile to yourself saying, "Hah! I'm sick of looking at Nemos." ;D ;D ;D
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Post Number:#25  Postby SeaDemon » Fri May 04, 2007 3:11 pm

yeah i know tat.. when doin commercial u wont see anything. technical diver.. i think it cost a lot rite the course and equipment.

my fren told me once tat her abang is part time commercial diver at kuantan. so just 1 2 find out more info. looks like earning quite good but of course in return... ur life.... as always need to go to chamber... once u kena chamber.... u will have risk in getting DCS easily....


If you do commercial diving, it'll cost you about RM80-90K. But of course you can recover that in one or to jobs. Tech diving, on average it costs you RM2K per course...starting from basic such as deco procedures, to deep air, trimix I, trimix II and trimix III.

If you decide to become an inshore commercial diver not working for anyone, you have to invest a lot in equipment. For example, one run of diver umbilical costs around RM35-40K. You will need 4 runs. Diver to diver to surface com system will set you back around RM80K. Then you have your LP and HP compressors, your portable chamber (about RM250K). A lot of investment. of course, the cheaper method is to work for others.

Tech diving, you mainly do it for fun...or you can make money from it by doing simple things like search and recovery. However, you must love diving...even if it means at Pulau Besar, PD or Port Klang.

Like I've been saying, there is no such thing as a bad dive site, there are only bad divers.
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Post Number:#26  Postby zzz » Fri May 04, 2007 8:10 pm



What is the fun in all that? It gives you the rush...checking your equipment because your life and that of your buddy depends on YOUR equipment. You get to see wrecks of battleships and other warships that look as if time had stopped. You can imagine the crew running here and there doing damage control and at the same time being blown to bits by the bombs the Japanese aircraft drop. You can see the huge torpedo holes on the Repulse and know how it looked like as it steamed at 14 knots as it disappeared beneath the waves.

Then you start your way back to the ascent line and commence your deco stops according to your run times. Curious whale shark stop by to check you out....followed by a school of 2m Cobias...and then schools of Batfish. You reach 21m you switch to your EAN50...at 6m you switch to 100% O2 and you watch your depth...at 3m you're on the deco station breathing surface-supplied oxygen. Cool stuff.

Topside, as you relax while still breathing O2, you have a look at your camera playback, you see 15-inch guns, you see anti-aircraft guns, you see the lifeboats, you see the gigantic propellers, rudders, torpedo holes..and you smile to yourself saying, "Hah! I'm sick of looking at Nemos." ;D ;D ;D


Now I am drooling........

I am so jealous coz I am imagining all that in my head >:(
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Post Number:#27  Postby wing0112 » Mon May 07, 2007 9:22 am

yeah i know tat.. when doin commercial u wont see anything. technical diver.. i think it cost a lot rite the course and equipment.

my fren told me once tat her abang is part time commercial diver at kuantan. so just 1 2 find out more info. looks like earning quite good but of course in return... ur life.... as always need to go to chamber... once u kena chamber.... u will have risk in getting DCS easily....


If you do commercial diving, it'll cost you about RM80-90K. But of course you can recover that in one or to jobs. Tech diving, on average it costs you RM2K per course...starting from basic such as deco procedures, to deep air, trimix I, trimix II and trimix III.

If you decide to become an inshore commercial diver not working for anyone, you have to invest a lot in equipment. For example, one run of diver umbilical costs around RM35-40K. You will need 4 runs. Diver to diver to surface com system will set you back around RM80K. Then you have your LP and HP compressors, your portable chamber (about RM250K). A lot of investment. of course, the cheaper method is to work for others.

Tech diving, you mainly do it for fun...or you can make money from it by doing simple things like search and recovery. However, you must love diving...even if it means at Pulau Besar, PD or Port Klang.

Like I've been saying, there is no such thing as a bad dive site, there are only bad divers.



tech diving.. where can i learn it... u got tech diver license? i am also interested in Tech... any advise... i been like frog bawah tempurung.... just release out... so curious.. and i dont have much diver kaki or sifu's... so i need some guru here... but the tech lesen very expensive...
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Post Number:#28  Postby SeaDemon » Mon May 07, 2007 11:58 am

yeah i know tat.. when doin commercial u wont see anything. technical diver.. i think it cost a lot rite the course and equipment.

my fren told me once tat her abang is part time commercial diver at kuantan. so just 1 2 find out more info. looks like earning quite good but of course in return... ur life.... as always need to go to chamber... once u kena chamber.... u will have risk in getting DCS easily....


If you do commercial diving, it'll cost you about RM80-90K. But of course you can recover that in one or to jobs. Tech diving, on average it costs you RM2K per course...starting from basic such as deco procedures, to deep air, trimix I, trimix II and trimix III.

If you decide to become an inshore commercial diver not working for anyone, you have to invest a lot in equipment. For example, one run of diver umbilical costs around RM35-40K. You will need 4 runs. Diver to diver to surface com system will set you back around RM80K. Then you have your LP and HP compressors, your portable chamber (about RM250K). A lot of investment. of course, the cheaper method is to work for others.

Tech diving, you mainly do it for fun...or you can make money from it by doing simple things like search and recovery. However, you must love diving...even if it means at Pulau Besar, PD or Port Klang.

Like I've been saying, there is no such thing as a bad dive site, there are only bad divers.



tech diving.. where can i learn it... u got tech diver license? i am also interested in Tech... any advise... i been like frog bawah tempurung.... just release out... so curious.. and i dont have much diver kaki or sifu's... so i need some guru here... but the tech lesen very expensive...


Hehe..go do your medical first with a Hyperbaric medicine doctor...
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Post Number:#29  Postby dive_addict » Sun May 20, 2007 4:28 pm

Aloha,

Visited www.underwaterctr.com.au and wrote an email to them. But no reply. Need the course info, Can help, Snafu?

Thanks :-?
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Post Number:#30  Postby GOD » Sun May 20, 2007 4:51 pm

Aloha,

Visited www.underwaterctr.com.au and wrote an email to them. But no reply. Need the course info, Can help, Snafu?

Thanks :-?


1. You need to decide if you [highlight]REALLY[/highlight] want to be commercial diver

2. Booked for the course earliest date

3. Make sure you have Medic First Aid & O2 provider (DAN be good) ... before U go there

4. Better master the DM manual & Instructor Manual
- Be good with Decompression table ... US Navy, RN & DCIEM Table.... DM's & Instructors fail big time here
- Very good with diving EQUIPMENT, [highlight]Pratical side of it ... most DMs & Instructors fail big time here[/highlight].

5. Have basic knots skill
- Bowline ...reefknots...splice....back splice... eye splice.... etc

6. Do PULHEEMs/SPUMS FIT TO DIVE check .... HAT in Lumut
- They might have called it Institute Of Hyperbaric Medicine ...now  
- You can check with DIVEDOC ..... he is a moderator for MUW

7. Do BOSIET (opito approve) would be great...cost more but good la
- No budget just do BOSIET at MAS building .... SeaQ

The money is OFFSHORE ..... to work offshore you would need ADAS Pt.1, Pt.2 & Pt. 3
Course Duration 3 month.

This is the website[highlight] www.underwaterctr.com.au[/highlight]

;D
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