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Should I or should I not ??
« on: May 30, 2011, 12:13:24 PM »

Hey guys,

I want to clear up some doubts that I still have regarding scuba diving. Hence, I'm hoping any members here can help me. Well I basically have 2 questions that are :

1) What is the use of getting a diving cert/license? Can't I still go scuba diving without one or is it illegal?

2) I'm currently an minor epileptic patient and my dad is pretty concern about my interest in getting my license. I have done scuba before(without license in Bali) so I know that I can handle it. However, I also need opinions from experienced divers, so is it harmful/dangerous for a person like me to pickup scuba diving. If yes, please tell me why. If no, please help me in how I can convince my dad that it is a save sport for me to venture into.

I hope all the sifu-sifu here could help me. Thanks in advance.  :)

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Re: Should I or should I not ??
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2011, 01:23:12 PM »

Hi..what is the important to get license is because once you get certified you can go scuba by your own self. You have learn everything tht you should know about scuba diving. It is not only about exploring underwater but it is more about your own safety when we're down there. To be more details, let's wait for our sifu here or the best still you need to go for the open water diver course, then you will be more understand it after get your manual book or video for you to understand everything and why the certification is very important.

this is one of the answer...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090606142708AAGj9rV

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Re: Should I or should I not ??
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2011, 01:32:01 PM »

Thanks ikan wadi ....
Really do appreciate your answer

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Re: Should I or should I not ??
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2011, 01:45:17 PM »

Hi diver_waseem24:

Some idea for you regard to your questions:

1)   Having a certified license card for scuba diving is a MUST, by verifying you had gone thru the proper training for scuba diving activity. Practically the course help you understand the philosophy & skills to go for SCUBA, good for yourself as safety concern in priority while a 'key' to access to the underwater world in worldwide with better recognized! Dive Cert is a MUST! Of course, you may go diving without certification, this is what we called “Discovery Dive” with a certified Instructor, up to the allowed depth of 12M only (This isn’t consider certified diver, just experienced diving!)! Every “Discovery Dive” MUST accompany by a Professional Diver, while certified diver can go with any certified buddy. Those are the different.
2)   Epileptic seizure - occasionally referred to as a fit, is defined as a transient symptom of "abnormal excessive or synchronous neuronal activity in the brain". The outward effect can be as dramatic as a wild thrashing movement (tonic-clonic seizure) or as mild as a brief loss of awareness. It can manifest as an alteration in mental state, tonic or clonic movements, convulsions, and various other psychic symptoms (such as déjà vu or jamais vu). Sometimes it is not accompanied by convulsions but a full body "slump", where the person simply will lose control of their body and slump to the ground. Seizures may cause involuntary changes in body movement or function, sensation, awareness, or behavior. Seizures are often associated with a sudden and involuntary contraction of a group of muscles and loss of consciousness. However, a seizure can also be as subtle as a fleeting numbness of a part of the body, a brief or long term loss of memory, visual changes, sensing/discharging of an unpleasant odor, a strange epigastric sensation, or a sensation of fear and total state of confusion. A seizure can last from a few seconds to status epilepticus, a continuous group of seizures that is often life-threatening without immediate intervention. Therefore seizures are typically classified as motor, sensory, autonomic, emotional or cognitive. After the active portion of a seizure, there is typically a period referred to as postictal before a normal level of consciousness returns. Thus, NOT RECOMMENDED FOR SCUBA DIVING AS YOU WILL ENGAGE INTO A SUBMERGED WORLD WHICH ‘MEDICAL RESPONSE’ IS NOT POSSIBLE IF THE SIGN/SYMPTON OCCUR DURING DIVING!!!

Felt bad to hear your condition, but don’t give up! YOU MAY ENROLL WITH SURFACE SNORKELING ACTIVITY, WITH A GUIDE ALWAYS TO ENJOY THE WORLD BELOW THE SURFACE!

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Re: Should I or should I not ??
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2011, 01:50:54 PM »

Haha, thanks Xcess Scuba ...
Having done both scuba diving and snorkeling, I don't really enjoy the latter.
There is no thrill in snorkeling as I don't get to dive underwater.
Anyways, looks like I have to most probably postpone my intention of getting a diving cert.
Until my condition gets better or improves, that is.

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Re: Should I or should I not ??
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2011, 02:03:59 PM »

Yeah, you should listen to bro Xcess Scuba. Wait till your health get better first then only you can decide again. Be patient and dont give up dear. Anyhow you're still young. There is a time for you later.  :)

Get better soon then you can dive safely.
 

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Re: Should I or should I not ??
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2011, 02:11:20 PM »

Yeah, you should listen to bro Xcess Scuba. Wait till your health get better first then only you can decide again. Be patient and dont give up dear. Anyhow you're still young. There is a time for you later.  :)

Get better soon then you can dive safely.
 



Well, the only problem is that my health condition is unlikely to get better although the seizures are quite under control. That is why I have the faith in myself that I can do this as I usually can sense when I'm gonna get fits and there are certain factors that triggers it. Anyhow, I think I'll wait until I'm 21 and see how its turning out. Hopefully it will get better by then.

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Re: Should I or should I not ??
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2011, 05:26:00 PM »

get a medical / diving doctor to certify you.....

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Re: Should I or should I not ??
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2011, 05:59:18 PM »

Life is much more important than recreational diving.. The aim is to make diving as safe as possible. As suggested, get medical clearence from doctors who understand what diving is all about. Remember, be safe.

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Re: Should I or should I not ??
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2011, 06:36:20 PM »

Hey guys,

I want to clear up some doubts that I still have regarding scuba diving. Hence, I'm hoping any members here can help me. Well I basically have 2 questions that are :

1) What is the use of getting a diving cert/license? Can't I still go scuba diving without one or is it illegal?

2) I'm currently an minor epileptic patient and my dad is pretty concern about my interest in getting my license. I have done scuba before(without license in Bali) so I know that I can handle it. However, I also need opinions from experienced divers, so is it harmful/dangerous for a person like me to pickup scuba diving. If yes, please tell me why. If no, please help me in how I can convince my dad that it is a save sport for me to venture into.

I hope all the sifu-sifu here could help me. Thanks in advance.  :)


1. contrary to popular beliefs, you can dive without a license. just that you can't go to a dive centre and say you want to dive, cos those are recreational diving, and if you want to rent tanks and stuffs, you MUST have a license. however, if you have your own tanks and stuffs, go ahead, dive without a license, without a buddy, without proper gears. however, it is still better to get a license as you need to learn the DOs and DONTs of diving, thus ensuring your own safety, and the safety of the people you dive with. it's basically like a driving license. you can drive without a license, just that you cant do it on the federal roads. you can drive on the sepang track, provided they dont need you to have a license.

2. cant' help you on this. not a medical expert!

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Re: Should I or should I not ??
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2011, 06:41:37 PM »

Thanks guys for all your help. I think I'll try consulting with some doctors about this.
 :) :) :)