Just wondering on the legal requirement, hope can someone enlighten me

1. IF were to setup a dive shop, what license required and how much?
2. If were to setup a dive school, what license required and how much?
3. Can combine dive school & dive shop together?
4. How about insurance?
5. Is it really easy to apply all those license?

If those license are the same if were to open in island or in town?

Recently i saw number of dive shop but just wondering whether they have license a not. Those that are otais no need to say lah but some small small shop. Will us as consumer be insured or protected towards any scammers?

instructor must be a certified dive instructor  

but i was taught by a non-certified instructor  although i have a c-card >

SKK...you can be taught skills by a non-certified instructor, called an Assistant Instructor. However, certification can only be done by a qualified and certified Scuba Instructor. For open water phase, first dive must be led by the OWSI, subsequent dives can be lead by the AI after skills have been conducted by the qualified and certified OWSI.

Assistant Instructor and Divemasters, can teach non-diving courses.

I stand corrected..Instructors please confirm or add or correct.

license part how? from my Sifu statement, qualified assistant (DM or AI) can only assists to grab the tanks or look after the students. They are only allowed to do demostrations for some of the skills after the Instructor do the demo. This is the best part as Instructor only need to do it once. repeat demo can ask assistant.

Some skills like snorkelling or water testing stuff the AI can do. So basically DM or AI is good for DM job and not teaching. SO quick upgrade ur status...

Correct a not? And how about the license part??????

True only if you work in a dive shop. If an instructor asks me to carry tanks for him, I'll give him my middle finger up his dirty hole.

Why upgrade? Refering to your statement in another thread: Instructors do boring dives with students...DMs take the chicks to nice dive sites. ;D

On the licencing, you want to open a dive shop, you have to have a business registration from the local council..you have to have certification of building fitness from the fire department...you have to have lots of things..like running a normal business but for diving.

After you have done all that, and have a DC running, then only you can apply to the various agencies to become their dive center (ie PADI Dive Center/IRRA)

cheh!  > then why ask?

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instructor must be a certified dive instructor  

but i was taught by a non-certified instructor  although i have a c-card >

SKK...you can be taught skills by a non-certified instructor, called an Assistant Instructor. However, certification can only be done by a qualified and certified Scuba Instructor. For open water phase, first dive must be led by the OWSI, subsequent dives can be lead by the AI after skills have been conducted by the qualified and certified OWSI.

Assistant Instructor and Divemasters, can teach non-diving courses.

I stand corrected..Instructors please confirm or add or correct.

thanks for the explanation SD
my OW and AOW is fine
just that my nitrox class is taught my a non-certified PSAI instructor .. who claimed that he was a PSAI certified  >

Yeah, I heard. I hope that that has been sorted now for you and the rest.

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instructor must be a certified dive instructor  

but i was taught by a non-certified instructor  although i have a c-card >

SKK...you can be taught skills by a non-certified instructor, called an Assistant Instructor. However, certification can only be done by a qualified and certified Scuba Instructor. For open water phase, first dive must be led by the OWSI, subsequent dives can be lead by the AI after skills have been conducted by the qualified and certified OWSI.

Assistant Instructor and Divemasters, can teach non-diving courses.

I stand corrected..Instructors please confirm or add or correct.

thanks for the explanation SD
my OW and AOW is fine
just that my nitrox class is taught my a non-certified PSAI instructor .. who claimed that he was a PSAI certified  >

Yeah, I heard. I hope that that has been sorted now for you and the rest.

well, i talked to Hal about it, and was hinting him that do i need a re-certification .. he was like.. erm erm erm ... (something like, we will not do it for you.. it's your problem ) and he says,, everything i need to know it's on the text book that i bought. so, it should be ok, though  :-?

yups hopefully lah but i didnt gamble 1 lah.. so how to strike..... and u took Nitrox in US ar.... wut else u took over there? y over in US..... u sapu sampah underwater issit?

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yups hopefully lah but i didnt gamble 1 lah.. so how to strike..... and u took Nitrox in US ar.... wut else u took over there? y over in US..... u sapu sampah underwater issit?

took nitrox over in KL.. that's why got non-certified instructor who claimed he is an certified inst teaching ... all these stuff where got happen in US one

It happens everywhere. Otherwise you won't see courts in the US.

And remember, the "instructor" isn't Malaysian

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yups hopefully lah but i didnt gamble 1 lah.. so how to strike..... and u took Nitrox in US ar.... wut else u took over there? y over in US..... u sapu sampah underwater issit?

took nitrox over in KL.. that's why got non-certified instructor who claimed he is an certified inst teaching ... all these stuff where got happen in US one

It happens everywhere. Otherwise you won't see courts in the US.

And remember, the "instructor" isn't Malaysian

kekekeke

and even Hal could not pronounce his last name  ;D

got my card  

Is with you now?

well.... POS msia is good lah u know.. i got my OW card 03 month after my certifications... so i think urs should be arrive early lah....

oh yeah is the dive center license fee more than Rm1000 per year?

everything i need to know it's on the text book that i bought. so, it should be ok, though  :-?

Now that pretty much all the agencies have dropped the in-water requirements for Nitrox cert, it's true that most of what you need to know is in the book. I hope you learned it, and that your "instructor" (even if he wasn't rated to teach it) helped you learn. Not that this excuses the instructor... in my agency you wouldn't have got your card, so I would say you're lucky that this happened with PSAI (as long as you *did* learn, that is).

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everything i need to know it's on the text book that i bought. so, it should be ok, though  :-?

Now that pretty much all the agencies have dropped the in-water requirements for Nitrox cert, it's true that most of what you need to know is in the book. I hope you learned it, and that your "instructor" (even if he wasn't rated to teach it) helped you learn. Not that this excuses the instructor... in my agency you wouldn't have got your card, so I would say you're lucky that this happened with PSAI (as long as you *did* learn, that is).

kekee.. yeah.. lucky.. but i really bugged the director of the company for the card so, probably i "forced" them to give me else, it's impossible for me to re-take the course, unless i'm still in Malaysia

but it's not bad after all.. he taught according to the syllabus, made us understand well, and we did "pass" the exam .... only after few months later i got to know about the whole incident...

the book has not reached me yet.. but i hope that it will refresh my mind on what i've gone through

oh okies.. yeah i understand that... i know how to reply my friend... the license cost a gun la....