hmmm... just a question... in real world, do you perform BWRAF check on yourself or your buddy before jumping into the ocean?

coz... i noticed.. on my last trip... my buddy didn't do it on me .. so, i thought it was normal.. so, i check check myself lah... he just told me,... see u down there... don't want to waste air on the surface

the second buddy... next day... better lah.. at least waited for me on the surface.. went down together.. always look back and see whether i was still there or not.... but still no BWRAF was done... we mind our own business only ...

I used to have 1 buddy. He BARFed on me underwater. All sausage n scrambled eggs he ate in earlier breakfast are given to the fish. That's the only BARF I remember... ;-)

i've got time ayoooo explain to me la.....

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Snafu ... YOu dive SOLO all the time ... got ppl do BWRAF on you???

Errrr.. tough question bro, I do my own check which is more then BWRAF.

My equipment, My Dive & My Life... I am responsible for it.

Sorry Not PADI trained diver.

hmmm... just a question... in real world, do you perform BWRAF check on yourself or your buddy before jumping into the ocean?

coz... i noticed.. on my last trip... my buddy didn't do it on me .. so, i thought it was normal.. so, i check check myself lah... he just told me,... see u down there... don't want to waste air on the surface

the second buddy... next day... better lah.. at least waited for me on the surface.. went down together.. always look back and see whether i was still there or not.... but still no BWRAF was done... we mind our own business only ...

Is not easy for me to remember BWRAF, I always think of ButterWorth Royal Air Force.  :

i just make sure my air is on.....

That is what we normally do ;D ;D

hmmm.. if it is not important.. why PADI has to teach leh  :

Dont get me wrong ... Its important, its only we as divers sometimes feels its not cool to
do it anymore.

Its a standard by PADI... ensuring every divers check their equipment whether its fit for diving.

Its only 30 sec- 1min predive check.

Been lazy 1 time and didn't do this BWRAF, I forgot to open my valve and can't suck any air from the cylinder. From that time onwards, I don't care if others don't do it, I'll do it for myself and my buddy.

hmmm.. i've read few posts (not only in this forum) about ppl forgotten to turn on their valves.

i don't know what they are thinking there.. but i thought when u r attaching your reg to the tank, u r supposed to turn it on and check what is the pressure reading? and after that, just leave it as it is?

and probably, after u put on your bcd, u depress the purge button once or twice to see whether got air or not... it's such a basic things, but i heard stories of ppl forgetting to turn on their valves...   :-? ... it's not even the whole BWRAF yet  :

and that said... i guess it's probably good that u attach your reg yourself, rather than other ppl doing it for you  

sorry john.. not directing at u.. but it's general.... peace

SKK .. its all depand on where about you dive..

normally in a dive resort, before dive briefing, the DM will normally ask you to check
your gear after they assemble it for the divers. This including you yourself check the air from the secondstages and the SPG then turn off the air. After checking they will ask you to carry to the speed boat. Upon arrival at the dive site then turn on the valve back.  

Its quite difficult to do the BWRAF on a boat with 6-10 divers onboard. but a good ethical dive centre will will emphasis this process with thier fun divers or students.  

It will different case if you are on LOB. too many ppl jumping at the same time and limited space. so your buddy will be doing it for you. So ensure you gear is close to buddy's gear.

As what others mentioned earlier, BWRAF on you first then force yourself to do on your buddy.You need to know whether your buddy equipment works alrights bcoz if you low or out of air, you will be chasing your buddy for alternate air source or mayby buddy breathing stationary where you will be the receiver.  

As I said different places may have differnt perspective on this issue.

Correct also. but after a while dah jadi habit check tank dule before turun  

What do I do?

On the boat I turn on my valve and see the pressure reading. Then I take four puffs or more of air via the regulator. If there is something wrong then, after four puffs, no air will enter your mouth.

When I enter the water, on the surface, I will check my Dive Buddy (not dive buddy cos I don't have a dive buddy. I have a Dive Buddy)'s first stage valve in the water..look for leakages. She'll do the same for me.

That done, another four puffs from the regulator, and descend while looking at each other.

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i just make sure my air is on.....

That is what we normally do ;D ;D

Wo0oaahh... You'd be surprise how many divers forget to make sure that their air is ON.  ;D ;D

hmmm.. i've read few posts (not only in this forum) about ppl forgotten to turn on their valves.

i don't know what they are thinking there.. but i thought when u r attaching your reg to the tank, u r supposed to turn it on and check what is the pressure reading? and after that, just leave it as it is?

and probably, after u put on your bcd, u depress the purge button once or twice to see whether got air or not... it's such a basic things, but i heard stories of ppl forgetting to turn on their valves...   :-? ... it's not even the whole BWRAF yet  :

and that said... i guess it's probably good that u attach your reg yourself, rather than other ppl doing it for you  

sorry john.. not directing at u.. but it's general.... peace

That's a habit t me, after fixing all the gear, I'll do a simple check on SPG, BC & both regulators. THEN I will turn off the valve till before jump into the water. So without BWRAF, there is a great chance that I forget to reopen the valve.

Great SD... safety diver u r

hmm... u seem to love you DB a lot

hmmmm.. instead of 4 puffs... isn't 2 puffs enough already? waste air mah

Dangerous comment there about my DB.

2 puffs is insufficient to drain out the air from the system with the valve closed.