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Emergency Breathing from Your BCD
« on: September 17, 2011, 08:28:02 AM »

why don’t dive agencies teach this technique?
 
Nearly 30 years ago, we first raised the question, what do you do if you're 100 feet down with two buddies, and both come to you out of air? One solution would be to pass your primary second stage to one buddy, give your octopus to the other, and then begin a slow ascent while valving fresh air into your buoyancy compensator and breathing through your BCD's oral inflator mouthpiece. It's tricky and takes practice, but it works.
Yet none of the commercial training agencies teaches BCD breathing at any level. In fact, after we reported  again on this technique in 1999, the industry seems to have closed ranks against it, even though it's been  successfully tested in a variety of predicaments.
We don't advocate breathing BCD air as a standard practice, only as a last resort in an emergency when you're deep and have no other source or air. If you add air with your power inflator, it will be pure and contain 21 percent oxygen (even more if you're using Nitrox). If you orally inflate your BCD, it will still contain 16 percent oxygen. Even if you suck your tank dry, you can get some air through your regulator as you ascend, and the pressure in your tank becomes greater than the ambient pressure. However, once your tank is bone dry, you'll still have residual air in your BCD, or at least in your inflator hose.
Bear in mind that air in your BCD will also become more available as you rise. If you put your BCD  mouthpiece into your mouth and keep trying to inhale and exhale while you rise, you should be able to do  so for at least 20 seconds while the ambient pressure decreases enough to provide a breath of air. Then you can continue the process as you ascend. Tests conducted by the late Al Pierce of the YMCA concluded that  you can exhale back into your BCD and keep rebreathing the same air as many as 13 times without becoming  overly hungry for fresh air. (After all, exhaled air is good enough for artificial respiration.) Using this  technique, instead of free-ascending with no air, you'll have some air as you rise, which will allow you to  make a slower and safer ascent.
Is the proabability of a fatal infection from
      bacteria and other contamination in a
    BCD bladder as high as PADI claims?"
Even so, agencies refuse to teach this technique,  although some individual instructors may  introduce it on their own. The key objection  voiced by PADI is the possibility of respiratory  infection from bacteria inside the BCD. LeRoy  Wickham, educational consultant to PADI, says,  "Due to the very high probability of bacteria,  viruses and other contamination in a BCD bladder, we do not advocate breathing from a BCD. That skill is  not included as a performance requirement or training option in any PADI courses."
A Rare Case of Lung Infection
In fact, a British diver developed a deadly fungal infection in his lungs in 2009 that was caused by a  contaminated BCD. "The culprit," according to the British magazine DIVER, "was Aspergillus fumigatus, a  micro-organism that exists within all our bodies and in the air, but usually safely contained by our immune  systems."
Michael Firth, an active 58-year-old technical diver, became seriously ill after taking two deep breaths  from his wing BCD's manual inflator to be sure it was working. He had noted a moldy taste at the time, and  tests after he fell ill established that the fungus had taken hold in the wing bladder. His condition steadily  deteriorated, and he passed away in December 2009 while awaiting a lung transplant.
But is the probability of such a fatal infection as high as PADI claims? David Denning, a professor of  mycology at the University of Manchester in the U.K. and director of the National Aspergillosis Centre,  told DIVER that Firth's is the only diving-related case he has come across, and that more research is needed  into why his body reacted as it did. "His lung reaction was clearly very unusual, and you wouldn't normally  expect such a very extreme clinical reaction in someone who's fit enough to dive."
Dive medicine doctor Ian Sibley-Calder added: "Invasive pulmonary aspergillosis is extremely unusual in  people with no other history of lung problems or altered immune system - - diabetes, steroids, chemotherapy,  HIV etc. Consider the number of divers over the world and the fact that inhaling from a buoyancy device is  relatively common - - to extract air to collapse a wing, for instance, which I've done many times.
"While this case is tragic, and it's a fair point that we should all take care of our kit, I don't think we  should be overly alarmist. If you need to breathe out of a buoyancy device because you've run out of air, do  it. Be careful, but don't panic."
BCDs can be disinfected with solutions readily available in dive shops (see the sidebar "Disinfecting Your  BCD"). Or you can use benzalkonium chloride, which is available at drug stores under the brand name  Zephiran chloride. Besides, why should you be concerned about a lung infection in an out-of-air emergency?  With the exception of Mike Firth's case, there are a lot more cures for respiratory infections than there are  for drowning.
The second biggest objection made by training agencies is that divers will need to master new skills and  perhaps to overlearn some old ones. For instance, you must be able to clear the ounce or so of water from  your inflator hose mouthpiece without choking. Other skills required vary depending on whether your first  stage is still supplying air. Additional objections include difficulties with buoyancy control, such as ascending  too fast or the possibility of arriving on the surface with no lift in the BCD.
The consensus seems to be that keeping things simple reduces the chance of panic. Retired UCLA professor Glenn Egstrom cited a phenomenon called "peripheral narrowing," which is the tendency to lose track of one's options under stress, thereby subverting the reflexive nature of trained responses. While that may be a valid consideration, does it make sense for those charged with the safety of others (e.g., Rescue, Divemaster, or Instructor levels) to not even be exposed to this proven technique for handling out-of-air situations or equipment malfunctions?
Training Agency Options
A few years ago, PADI spelled out the recommended options for low/out of air situations, in order of priority:
  • Make a normal ascent, if your tank isn't completely empty.
  • Ascend using an alternate air source (redundant supply or buddy's octopus).
  • Execute a controlled emergency swimming ascent.
  • Buddy-breathe with a single regulator supplied by another diver.
  • Make a buoyant emergency ascent.
Steve Lewis, director of marketing and corporate communications and an instructor at TDI/SDI, told  Undercurrent he knows of nobody in either agency teaching BCD breathing. At TDI, which offers technical  diving certifications, emphasis is on the rule of thirds, with students trained to manage their dives so that  one third of their breathing supply is always held in reserve. While acknowledging that BCD breathing  might be used by an experienced sport diver to avoid an emergency ascent, he said, "It'll be a cold day on  the equator before I'd teach it."
Insisting that BCD breathing was "not a viable option," NAUI Training Manager Randy Shaw confirmed that his agency does not teach it at any level of certification. Watson DeVore, director of education for Scuba Schools International agrees with Shaw, adding, "That skill isn't taught because we teach students not to run out of air."
Of course, that turns a blind eye to the great number of divers who do run out of air - - SSI divers  included - - and run into serious consequences. However, frequent Undercurrent contributor Bret Gilliam says  the technique may not be viable for the average diver due to the danger of inhaling water on the first breath  from a BCD inflator hose. That could cause a laryngeal spasm, which could lead to diver panic. He urges  that experience and practice are crucial to master this technique (see our sidebar "How to Breathe from a  BCD").
When faced with a life or death situation, should one give second thought to the small chance of a lung  infection? Isn't being able to state a controlled emergency ascent or a buoyant emergency ascent safer if you  have a few breaths of air from your BCD? Knowing you've got at least one more ace up your sleeve might  help keep you cool as you weigh your options. Hopefully, you'll get things under control before you ever  need to use your BCD as an alternate air source. But it's there if you need it.
http://www.undercurrent.org/
My personal option still choose to safely ascent when my buddy or me reach 50bar(depend on depth)
 
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Re: Emergency Breathing from Your BCD
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2011, 08:51:16 AM »

another thing you dont learn in OW
BOB says about buddy 1 minute search

Question:A buddy pair loses contact underwater(missing buddy). What should each diver do?
Bob answer:
Both buddies should end the dive underwater by returning to the exit point.
 
I have recently read a DAN message repeating the dangerous rubbish promoted for many years namely “Look around for one minute then, if the buddy does not appear, ascend to the surface”.
 
I am surprised because I have a lot of respect for Dan and no doubt they have worked hard to improve diving safety over the years. I have to assume they just did not think about this one. If you are out there reading this DAN, let me hear from you!
 
The last thing you want to do is go straight to the surface. You are now subject to waves and current and probably someone is going to have to rescue you, and your buddy if he/she has followed the same rule. Also you have just made a direct ascent to the surface, probably too fast and without a safety stop, or essential stop as far as I am concerned, and so risk decompression illness. The inference is that you will meet up with your buddy on the surface, get together again (if you can do it without exhausting yourselves or drowning), then descend (without a guide line?) and continue the dive.  Unless the depth of the dive was trivial to start with, this is a really bad idea. Hello?!!
 
If you are buddy diving and lose your buddy what you should do is look around for one minute, fine, but then complete the last part of your dive plan by returning to the safe exit point underwater, do your safety stop and then surface where you originally planned, preferably right at the boat. Chances are if you both follow this plan you will meet your buddy underwater at some stage anyway and there would be no problem continuing the dive. Only if there is a real emergency, and losing contact with your buddy is not a real emergency, should you make a direct ascent to the surface.
 
{ Bob Halstead is a pioneer of the PNG tourist diving industry and has   made over 10,000 dives in PNG since arriving in 1973. With his wife   Dinah he built and operated the live aboard dive boat "Telita" which   in 1992 was voted "Best Live-aboard Dive Boat in the World" by   readers of "In Depth" magazine (Ed: "In Depth" merged with Undercurrent in 1996). He is a prize winning underwater   photographer, has written several books on PNG diving and marine   life, has a fish named after him, and in 2008 was inducted into the   International Scuba Diving Hall of Fame}

My personal opinion perhaps if the diver understand navigation his advice above can be applied but for a novice diver i doubt that they are confident enough to find the exit or even the starting point.
more at http://www.halsteaddiving.com/adult-section-stories/fundamentals/a-quiz-on-the-buddy-system/
 

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Re: Emergency Breathing from Your BCD
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2011, 07:48:02 AM »

benzalkonium chloride famously use in malaysia is Dettol.

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Re: Emergency Breathing from Your BCD
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2011, 09:21:24 AM »

though it make good case, BCD breathing is hard to thought for OW student, because majority of OW student doesn't have their own BCD, and who want to take the risk of breathing in rental BCD ?, and in OW you learn all the basic life saving skill.

I am faced with kinda same situation, whila taking drift dive, when we supposed to empty BCD for negative entry, but the instructor told me beside the obvious purge of BCD, I should suck the air from the oral inflator, but he told, that's for latter when you own your BCD.

The other thing is if the agency have mandatory rule to have their own BCD, this will put burden for the student to take class, as diving class is for some already to expensive, and in turn will reduce student participant for their agency. (but don't take it as student shouldn't put price of BCD before their safety)

Bottom line is to teach BCD breathing will elevate the risk for OW student 

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Re: Emergency Breathing from Your BCD
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 10:14:09 AM »

The article is good for info but I honestly feel it lacks application.
 
The OOA (Out of air) situation should not occur in recreational scuba diving. When it does occur, it is usually because:
 
1. Diver fails to do a proper predive check. (i.e. low tank pressure at start.)
2. Dive fails to monitor air pressure during dive.
3. Diver ignores 50bar low level. (i.e. "let's get more out of my dive!!!")
4. Defective gauge.
5. Actual air problem. (i.e. Rupture of tank o'ring, contaminated air, oil in air, jammed reg, etc)
 
If you're a new diver, you wouldn't be at 30m at the end of your dive. (Hell...even a seasoned diver wouldn't be!!! :P )
 
So I would agree that as an instructor, teaching BCD breathing is like teaching a novice driver to do a handbreak turn at 120km/hr to avoid accident......GOOD TO KNOW BUT DOUBT IT'S PRACTICAL USE.
 
And just a small additional note:
 
You should be deflating your BCD while accending. Breathing back into your BCD on accend may cause a buoyant accend which can mess the accend up even further.
 
 

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Re: Emergency Breathing from Your BCD
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 11:26:39 AM »

Agree with Nanda666 there. (tho I would have shot my buddies if they did actually run out of air at 30m) :D :D :D

A few more thoughts about the BCD breathing :
You might just overload your brains with excess CO2 (from re-breathing the air that you breathed out into the bladder). The air in the bladder/BCD is already short of O2 at 16% instead of the usual 21. If this very same breath of air is "recycled" via repeated breathing through the bladder, this 16% will be gone before you can even say...er "dang, I am out of air".

Secondly, I find the "20 breaths" figure a wee bit ter-over optimistic. Case in example, if the air is breathed out (ala teeny tiny bubbles from the mouth like how you do the CESA), will the air that "expands" in the bladder/BCD upon ascend be sufficient to supply a person with big lungs like me?

Assuming that the three of you (the original situation here is that 2 buddies have run out of air at 30m, yes?) have managed to stay calmer than a headless chicken, will you be able to coordinate the sharing of the only source of air between yourselves?

All in, i do concur with nanda666 that its more of a "nice to know" info. (And I have yet to try executing a handbrake turn while driving at 120kmh.  :) )

Nontheless, thanks run for the interesting find/read. :)
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