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GOD

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2007, 11:51:51 PM »

A friend of mine ... burts his middle ear coz of uncontrolled descend.

He had to rest for 1 month before being cleared to dive, he told me .... It was very painful & he actually hear his ear pop & lost of balance.

Max depth was 12m .... his ear pop at about 5m-6m only.

Never let peer pressure gets to you, if there are strong current that require you to descend fast & you not comfortable with it ... [highlight]JUST ABORT THE DIVE[/highlight].

Do take your time to descend & always have control over it .... after all you want to do more diving in the future.

Is recreational diving... enjoy it ...safely.

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bubble

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2007, 08:54:11 AM »

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more then 50% of diver carry over weight.

dont you think so?



because sometimes if the group has many otais diver... the newbies tend to takes times... to descend.. so the DM assume they dont enough weight.... so just advise them.. but actually they dont know how to control the breathing.... but the otais are giving indirect pressure to the newbies especially if doing drift diving.....




This the problem , JUST ADD WEIGHT ,

wing0112

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2007, 08:45:06 AM »

yeah add weight.. diver use more air.. diver ascend fast.. DM can finish job early.... hahaha... but sometimes the diver itself just wont dare to try lesser weight la.... sked malu....

superkingkong

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2007, 09:40:50 AM »

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A friend of mine ... burts his middle ear coz of uncontrolled descend.

He had to rest for 1 month before being cleared to dive, he told me .... It was very painful & he actually hear his ear pop & lost of balance.

Max depth was 12m .... his ear pop at about 5m-6m only.

Never let peer pressure gets to you, if there are strong current that require you to descend fast & you not comfortable with it ... [highlight]JUST ABORT THE DIVE[/highlight].

Do take your time to descend & always have control over it .... after all you want to do more diving in the future.

Is recreational diving... enjoy it ...safely.

 ;D



wow.. thanks for sharing the story... yeah.. it's kinda scary...

but what i'm scared is that.. for some reason.. after u r at the surface or somewhere below the surface.. current pulled u down diagonally fast  :-? will this kind of situation exist? ..

superkingkong

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2007, 09:43:20 AM »

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yeah add weight.. diver use more air.. diver ascend fast.. DM can finish job early.... hahaha... but sometimes the diver itself just wont dare to try lesser weight la.... sked malu....


why malu to deduct weight?
pro doesn't use weight at all :) if he/she can control her body in da water

SeaDemon

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« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2007, 10:58:41 AM »

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but what i'm scared is that.. for some reason.. after u r at the surface or somewhere below the surface.. current pulled u down diagonally fast  :-? will this kind of situation exist? ..


When you do encounter this situation, do let us know

Quero

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2007, 12:27:55 PM »

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pro doesn't use weight at all :) if he/she can control her body in da water


I do (use weights)
And I can (control my body).

Mostly it depends on the individual when it comes to pros. Easiest part of waterskills assessment for me at the pro level was floating (even with hands out of the water for the last two minutes) but I see lots of people struggle with it.

But back to the OP's question: now you know about the ears. The easiest way to hurt your ears by descending fast is head down along an anchor or buoy line. You get worried that you'll hold up traffic if you let go one hand to equalize. If you have current and a liine to descend, there's no need to get down fast. Take your time and equalize properly.

If you are worried about a current and you don't have a line to go down, the only kind you can manage with a rapid descent is a surface current, and the way to get past one of those is to do a negative entry, with your BCD empty of air. Splash and descend; no waiting at the surface for everybody.

Caveat: I've never dived in a river, but I've heard those currents are a bit different to deal with.

superkingkong

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2007, 12:34:07 PM »

i don't know mah.. so i ask loh  :-[

Quero

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« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2007, 01:10:11 PM »

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i don't know mah.. so i ask loh  :-[


That's the safest way to learn  8-)

wing0112

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2007, 01:25:37 PM »

urm my friend no need weight.... he is so skinny..... hahah the tanks weight pull him down....

superkingkong

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2007, 02:13:57 PM »

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pro doesn't use weight at all :) if he/she can control her body in da water


I do (use weights)
And I can (control my body).

Mostly it depends on the individual when it comes to pros. Easiest part of waterskills assessment for me at the pro level was floating (even with hands out of the water for the last two minutes) but I see lots of people struggle with it.

But back to the OP's question: now you know about the ears. The easiest way to hurt your ears by descending fast is head down along an anchor or buoy line. You get worried that you'll hold up traffic if you let go one hand to equalize. If you have current and a liine to descend, there's no need to get down fast. Take your time and equalize properly.

If you are worried about a current and you don't have a line to go down, the only kind you can manage with a rapid descent is a surface current, and the way to get past one of those is to do a negative entry, with your BCD empty of air. Splash and descend; no waiting at the surface for everybody.

Caveat: I've never dived in a river, but I've heard those currents are a bit different to deal with.


hmm.. sounds like my previous water polo training :P

ya,.. thanks for the advice... btw, what is negative entry? :P

superkingkong

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« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2007, 02:15:20 PM »

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i don't know mah.. so i ask loh  :-[


That's the safest way to learn  8-)


ask too much... ended up.. it's a burden to those "answer-er" :P  ;D

Quero

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2007, 02:47:02 PM »

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btw, what is negative entry? :P


's when you drop in with no air in your BCD. You hit the water and just go down instead of bobbing back to the surface to wait for your buddy.

SeaDemon

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2007, 03:26:17 PM »

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hmm.. sounds like my previous water polo training :P


Haha...but remember, we had to "walk" across the pool with both hands out of the water! ;D

wing0112

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« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2007, 06:29:37 PM »

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btw, what is negative entry? :P


's when you drop in with no air in your BCD. You hit the water and just go down instead of bobbing back to the surface to wait for your buddy.


u know the army ... its like wearing harness only....  yeah sometimes i like to do that.....

wing0112

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« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2007, 06:30:45 PM »

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hmm.. sounds like my previous water polo training :P


Haha...but remember, we had to "walk" across the pool with both hands out of the water! ;D



hey have u guys ever consider of underwater hockey.. 1 2 play... i might have found a new pool that can be use for that purpose.. the pool is under refurbishment and will re open in september...

jgshuwei

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« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2007, 10:11:31 PM »

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hmm.. sounds like my previous water polo training :P


Haha...but remember, we had to "walk" across the pool with both hands out of the water! ;D



hey have u guys ever consider of underwater hockey.. 1 2 play... i might have found a new pool that can be use for that purpose.. the pool is under refurbishment and will re open in september...


Lu macam itu pun boleh? :P :o :D

adik

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2007, 02:57:42 AM »

How la to play underwater hockey????

Must be very difficult huh... all slowmotion like that.. Sure cannot score one..  ;D ;D ;D

superkingkong

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« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2007, 09:23:34 AM »

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hmm.. sounds like my previous water polo training :P


Haha...but remember, we had to "walk" across the pool with both hands out of the water! ;D


ya yaya  ;D

sometimes we carried brick on our hand while "walking".. and sometimes we have to carry plastic chair at mamak stalls  :'( ;D ..  during those training.. we usually will cry.... kekekekee

superkingkong

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2007, 09:27:56 AM »

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btw, what is negative entry? :P


's when you drop in with no air in your BCD. You hit the water and just go down instead of bobbing back to the surface to wait for your buddy.


thanks for the explanation quero :)

superkingkong

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« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2007, 09:41:38 AM »

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btw, what is negative entry? :P


's when you drop in with no air in your BCD. You hit the water and just go down instead of bobbing back to the surface to wait for your buddy.


u know the army ... its like wearing harness only....  yeah sometimes i like to do that.....


these thread is about decend fast.. has no relation to the arimy...

superkingkong

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2007, 09:49:24 AM »

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How la to play underwater hockey????

Must be very difficult huh... all slowmotion like that.. Sure cannot score one..  ;D ;D ;D


i think if 1 can tahan main taichi.. i guess it shouldn't be a problem  ;D

wing0112

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« Reply #52 on: May 22, 2007, 01:27:29 PM »

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btw, what is negative entry? :P


's when you drop in with no air in your BCD. You hit the water and just go down instead of bobbing back to the surface to wait for your buddy.


u know the army ... its like wearing harness only....  yeah sometimes i like to do that.....


these thread is about decend fast.. has no relation to the arimy...


coz quero style like army style mah... dewscend fast

wing0112

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2007, 01:28:04 PM »

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How la to play underwater hockey????

Must be very difficult huh... all slowmotion like that.. Sure cannot score one..  ;D ;D ;D


i think if 1 can tahan main taichi.. i guess it shouldn't be a problem  ;D



but many ppl playing... well c how lah when the pool is ready i will ask u guy to join lah.... kakakaka

superkingkong

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2007, 01:43:51 PM »

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How la to play underwater hockey????

Must be very difficult huh... all slowmotion like that.. Sure cannot score one..  ;D ;D ;D


i think if 1 can tahan main taichi.. i guess it shouldn't be a problem  ;D



but many ppl playing... well c how lah when the pool is ready i will ask u guy to join lah.... kakakaka

kekeke... hmm.. no interest in hockey leh :P

wing0112

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Re: descend fast?
« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2007, 06:13:11 PM »

how about 6v6... (6 guy with 6 girl) does it makes more interesting?