Author Topic: A scenario to be discussed (Read 2133 times)

Ery · « **on:** September 15, 2007, 03:56:49 PM »

A scenario here to be discussed:-

1. Hit by Super strong current, you and your buddy drifted deep into the blue water.
2. at 40 meters depth
3. your buddy ran out of air and you have only 30 bar air which enough for one person to ascend up.

What would you do?

(A scenario taken from Umizaru)

babyFin · « **Reply #1 on:** September 15, 2007, 04:11:31 PM »

for me.. i will die die try to avoid that from happen to me and my beloved buddy..
its me how i dive.. buddy always have to stick together. and please do not be a stubborn buddy..

Ery · « **Reply #2 on:** September 15, 2007, 04:13:18 PM »

Quote from: babyFin on September 15, 2007, 04:11:31 PM

for me.. i will die die try to avoid that from happen to me and my beloved buddy..
its me how i dive.. buddy always have to stick together. and please do not be a stubborn buddy..

Can you elaborate more how are you suppose to avoid that from happening?

babyFin · « **Reply #3 on:** September 15, 2007, 04:19:28 PM »

always check ur depth and air.. ALWAYS! atleast every 10mins..
keep the gap no more than a meter from my dearest buddy..
must not be so brave to try a small small tiny hole (u think u re so small meh)? should u know and realize ur size and the hole size.. i love dive thru, swim thru.. but still have to acknowledge safety first.

wats the most important here is BUDDY SYSTEM!
wondering if u agree with me..

p/s: ill add more soon when i can think of..

Ery · « **Reply #4 on:** September 15, 2007, 04:21:39 PM »

Quote from: babyFin on September 15, 2007, 04:19:28 PM

always check ur depth and air.. ALWAYS! atleast every 10mins..
keep the gap no more than a meter from my dearest buddy..
must not be so brave to try a small small tiny hole (u think u re so small meh)? should u know and realize ur size and the hole size.. i love dive thru, swim thru.. but still have to acknowledge safety first.

wats the most important here is BUDDY SYSTEM!
wondering if u agree with me..

p/s: ill add more soon when i can think of..

what if you are in the scenario above?

babyFin · « **Reply #5 on:** September 15, 2007, 04:29:31 PM »

donno yet, bc usualy emergency situation will make me think more than i can now..
but one thing in my mind - i will try to help my buddy out wit the air left.. if he / she can go in that scene, there must be a way to go out from there..
theres a will, there have to be some way.

kimseng the maverick rogue · « **Reply #6 on:** September 15, 2007, 04:41:14 PM »

do repeated CESA with my buddy till reach the top.
30 bar of air should be enough
unless on baby tank larr
then i say

to my buddy

maritimer · « **Reply #7 on:** September 15, 2007, 05:02:29 PM »

Yea. CESA the way up

babyFin · « **Reply #8 on:** September 15, 2007, 05:02:54 PM »

Quote from: kimseng on September 15, 2007, 04:41:14 PM

do repeated CESA with my buddy till reach the top.
30 bar of air should be enough
unless on baby tank larr
then i say to my buddy

we re talking about
40meters. 30bar 1tank. 2 divers - one tangled
40 meters u know.. plus u have to do safety stop.. how?

babyFin · « **Reply #9 on:** September 15, 2007, 05:04:21 PM »

sorry, not tangled.. (a bit carried away by umizaru).. hehhee..

Ery · « **Reply #10 on:** September 15, 2007, 10:02:07 PM »

30 bar enough for one only to ascend from 40mtrs

...so how?

babyFin · « **Reply #11 on:** September 15, 2007, 11:42:38 PM »

Quote from: ery azahari on September 15, 2007, 10:02:07 PM

30 bar enough for one only to ascend from 40mtrs ...so how?

asking ppl how..how? since i have oledi gave mine, its ur turn to explain..
if u wat will u do??

Ery · « **Reply #12 on:** September 16, 2007, 12:50:22 AM »

Quote from: babyFin on September 15, 2007, 11:42:38 PM

Quote from: ery azahari on September 15, 2007, 10:02:07 PM
30 bar enough for one only to ascend from 40mtrs ...so how?

asking ppl how..how? since i have oledi gave mine, its ur turn to explain..
if u wat will u do??

If i'm facing such situation, these are what i will do:-

#1. i will never leave my buddy.
#2. I will do buddy breathing and cesa at the same time ascending slowly from 40 mtrs depth to the surface without any stops.
#3. immediate admitted myself into O2 chamber. (as the possibilities getting DCS are very high).

babyFin · « **Reply #13 on:** September 16, 2007, 12:53:23 AM »

ok..good tips.
let me give another scenario..
wat if ur buddy is tangled? or stuck..

Ery · « **Reply #14 on:** September 16, 2007, 10:14:51 AM »

Quote from: babyFin on September 16, 2007, 12:53:23 AM

ok..good tips.
let me give another scenario..
wat if ur buddy is tangled? or stuck..

rule of thumb:-

Always rescue yourself first.

babyFin · « **Reply #15 on:** September 16, 2007, 12:17:59 PM »

Quote from: ery azahari on September 16, 2007, 10:14:51 AM

Quote from: babyFin on September 16, 2007, 12:53:23 AM
ok..good tips.
let me give another scenario..
wat if ur buddy is tangled? or stuck..

rule of thumb:-

Always rescue yourself first.

i see...thats all? and u urself continue crying rest of ur life?

Ery · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2007, 12:22:43 PM »

Quote from: babyFin on September 16, 2007, 12:17:59 PM

Quote from: ery azahari on September 16, 2007, 10:14:51 AM
Quote from: babyFin on September 16, 2007, 12:53:23 AM
ok..good tips.
let me give another scenario..
wat if ur buddy is tangled? or stuck..

rule of thumb:-

Always rescue yourself first.

i see...thats all? and u urself continue crying rest of ur life?

babyFin · « **Reply #17 on:** September 16, 2007, 12:31:53 PM »

Quote from: ery azahari on September 16, 2007, 12:22:43 PM

Quote from: babyFin on September 16, 2007, 12:17:59 PM
Quote from: ery azahari on September 16, 2007, 10:14:51 AM
Quote from: babyFin on September 16, 2007, 12:53:23 AM
ok..good tips.
let me give another scenario..
wat if ur buddy is tangled? or stuck..

rule of thumb:-

Always rescue yourself first.

i see...thats all? and u urself continue crying rest of ur life?

thas y..rule of thumb, be safe! never againts the DONTs..
we cant do much, but we human can try our best to avoid such scenario.
agree?

Scorpenesub · « **Reply #18 on:** September 16, 2007, 12:33:33 PM »

Errr, i know the rule of thumb is to save yourself first. But what if your buddy is your wife or husband?

Can you still save yourself and let your other half drown? Or both try to make it up together, DCS and all.... and hope for the best? I will take later option....

Ery · « **Reply #19 on:** September 16, 2007, 12:34:14 PM »

Quote from: babyFin on September 16, 2007, 12:31:53 PM

Quote from: ery azahari on September 16, 2007, 12:22:43 PM
Quote from: babyFin on September 16, 2007, 12:17:59 PM
Quote from: ery azahari on September 16, 2007, 10:14:51 AM
Quote from: babyFin on September 16, 2007, 12:53:23 AM
ok..good tips.
let me give another scenario..
wat if ur buddy is tangled? or stuck..

rule of thumb:-

Always rescue yourself first.

i see...thats all? and u urself continue crying rest of ur life?

thas y..rule of thumb, be safe! never againts the DONTs..
we cant do much, but we human can try our best to avoid such scenario.
agree?

true...true...thanks for sharing cha****

babyFin · « **Reply #20 on:** September 16, 2007, 01:27:25 PM »

MACHA · « **Reply #21 on:** September 16, 2007, 09:34:01 PM »

achhoooo...scary la this,

1) ascend safely with buddy performing alternate air source
2) if you made it safely at 9-10meters & run out of air perform CESA
3) if you & your buddy didnt make it to 10meters & out of air, perform
buoyant emergency ascend...which is release weight lay horizontal position
make aaahhh sound like CESA

At this point i dont want to get drown....well might have to monitor DCS signs & symptoms later

Ery · « **Reply #22 on:** September 16, 2007, 09:36:08 PM »

Quote from: MACHA on September 16, 2007, 09:34:01 PM

achhoooo...scary la this, 1) ascend safely with buddy performing alternate air source
2) if you made it safely at 9-10meters & run out of air perform CESA
3) if you & your buddy didnt make it to 10meters & out of air, perform
buoyant emergency ascend...which is release weight lay horizontal position
make aaahhh sound like CESA

At this point i dont want to get drown....well might have to monitor DCS signs & symptoms later

thanks for your point of view bro... it's good to share here, at least we get to prepare ourselves with some theory practise...

MACHA · « **Reply #23 on:** September 16, 2007, 09:40:02 PM »

Your welcome la dey....sharing is caring

babyFin · « **Reply #24 on:** September 16, 2007, 09:44:55 PM »

Quote from: MACHA on September 16, 2007, 09:34:01 PM

achhoooo...scary la this, 1) ascend safely with buddy performing alternate air source
2) if you made it safely at 9-10meters & run out of air perform CESA
3) if you & your buddy didnt make it to 10meters & out of air, perform
buoyant emergency ascend...which is release weight lay horizontal position
make aaahhh sound like CESA

At this point i dont want to get drown....well might have to monitor DCS signs & symptoms later

thanx for ur tips..atleast caan gather all the useful info..

Nazir Amin · « **Reply #25 on:** September 16, 2007, 09:55:18 PM »

Quote from: MACHA on September 16, 2007, 09:34:01 PM

achhoooo...scary la this, 1) ascend safely with buddy performing alternate air source
2) if you made it safely at 9-10meters & run out of air perform CESA
3) if you & your buddy didnt make it to 10meters & out of air, perform
buoyant emergency ascend...which is release weight lay horizontal position
make aaahhh sound like CESA

At this point i dont want to get drown....well might have to monitor DCS signs & symptoms later

what a scary situation if this hapen... thanks for the tips

MACHA · « **Reply #26 on:** September 16, 2007, 10:06:08 PM »

I heard stories about some divers dont know how to perrform CESA....clueless!

Bobo® · « **Reply #27 on:** September 16, 2007, 10:11:35 PM »

Quote from: MACHA on September 16, 2007, 10:06:08 PM

I heard stories about some divers dont know how to perrform CESA....clueless!

they can, but horizontally la hahahaha, used to the training maa... hahaha

MACHA · « **Reply #28 on:** September 16, 2007, 10:18:57 PM »

achhoooo....i like, hahahaha

Ery · « **Reply #29 on:** September 16, 2007, 11:21:57 PM »

and even some of them dont even know what is "cesa"...