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Recording Freedives
« on: September 15, 2008, 03:00:09 PM »

abang mephisto, johnny, and the rest of the freedivers out there.

lets do a session in the pool.
officially measure,time  Dynamic Without Fins (DNF), Dynamic With Fins (DYN) & Static Apnea (STA)
then we can keep a record here in MUW.

cause i think we don't have one officially for Malaysia yet. plus its room for some bragging rights as well  :D :D :D :D :D :P :P

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2008, 03:02:56 PM »

btw for the benefit of the rest.... here are the explaination for the 3 disciplines.

Dynamic Without Fins (DNF)
The freediver travels in a horizontal position under water attempting to cover the greatest possible distance. Any propulsion aids are prohibited. Dynamic without fins is the most natural of both disciplines measuring the distance for many freedivers, because it doesn't need any propulsing material, but a very good technique. Performances also could only be recognized in pools with a minimum lenght of 25 meters, and are greatly appreciated from "old-swimmers".

Dynamic With Fins (DYN)
The freediver travels in a horizontal position under water attempting to cover the greatest possible distance. Any propulsion aids other than fins or a monofin and swimming movements with the arms are prohibited Dynamic with fins is the most typical of both disciplines measuring the distance in freediving, because of the specific means of propulsion : long fins or monofin. Performances could only be recognized in swimming-pools with a minimum length of 25 meters, and are sometimes considered in national or indoor's 'combiné', with the Static apnea.

Static Apnea (STA)
The freediver holds his breath for as long as possible with his respiratory tracts immerged, his body either in the water or at the surface. Static apnea is the only discipline measuring the duration, and one of the three disciplines considered for the international competitions by team, with Constant weight and Dynamic with fins. Performances could be done and recognized in both pool or open water (sea, lake, river, etc). 

thank you to AIDA international.... i copy and paste from the site. :)

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2008, 04:00:22 PM »

A rescue/medic team must also present while doing this riiight?
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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2008, 04:30:56 PM »

A rescue/medic team must also present while doing this riiight?


by virtue yes and with oxygen as the fear of blackout is present.
but first thing is for us to get a date and people to join in.
I would think that if we can get 5 people it would be a start and the numbers will grow.
So are you ON?  :)

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2008, 06:22:52 PM »

okie me in....... wanna give it a try also...

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2008, 09:58:53 PM »

so lets get the ball rolling then,

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2. wild_card
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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2008, 10:10:17 AM »



 hello bro.....
                   where n when this session take place? ;)

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2008, 02:22:03 PM »

So are you ON?  :)


ahahahahahaha....i skin dive ...buuuuuuuuuuut 5mtr under few sec enuf lor....dun think wanna go further like u guys...afraid woooo....ahahahaha..

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2008, 08:05:38 PM »

I've been super duper busy for this semester. Tons of assignments and projects.
Vil join u if time is suitable.  :glasses9:

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2008, 11:19:50 AM »

had a chat with abang mephisto yesterday, and he know of a place which has got a 50m pool. Its located somewhere in shah alam. lets just wait till he work things out.
when would you guys suggest? we do need a date to work around.


so as it stands,

Gonna attempt to record the freedives.

1. kimseng
2. wild_card
3. johnny
4. mephisto
5. reen
6.
7.
8.

volunteer for time keeping and medic/rescue

1.
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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2008, 11:48:32 AM »

Gonna attempt to record the freedives.

1. kimseng
2. wild_card
3. johnny
4. mephisto
5. reen------>arrrrk!!!~~@~@~~ boink*boink*why my name suddenly appear here??? my hands are like sotong(cuttlefish hands) cannot stop moving one..sure break the rules one
6.
7.
8.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2008, 11:53:02 AM by reen »

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2008, 01:15:09 PM »



 to abg mephisto....
                         PADE at shah alam got 50m long pool not 50m deep... :D :D :D

                            so take on sat or sun la bro...... i'll join to watch the event......


                         tank n reg are also available for rental..... [-(

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2008, 01:12:35 PM »

Gonna attempt to record the freedives.

1. kimseng
2. wild_card
3. johnny
4. mephisto
5. reen------>arrrrk!!!~~@~@~~ boink*boink*why my name suddenly appear here??? my hands are like sotong(cuttlefish hands) cannot stop moving one..sure break the rules one
6.
7.
8.


don't worry too much... just for fun... not a competition.



 to abg mephisto....
                         PADE at shah alam got 50m long pool not 50m deep... :D :D :D

                            so take on sat or sun la bro...... i'll join to watch the event......


                         tank n reg are also available for rental..... [-(


its not at PADE according to mephisto, but rather a private pool  :icon_cheers:

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM »



    ok bro.....

              sounds good ..... i'm in as a macai or mat pacak ok x?
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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2008, 08:12:35 PM »

can i come and watch... can also give CPR if needed.. but will only offer my assistance to cute sexy lips :D :D ... are we going to do it before hari raya arr kimseng? or after hari raya? hehhe... just so i can prepare myself :P

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2008, 01:51:34 AM »

woohoo how exciting!

take lotsa pictures or even put up a video okay??

tulip, aiyooo... how can you only do cpr to sexy lips? tut tut tut heheh. and also, when ppl blackout in general, and/or have a laryngospasm and/or a hypoxic seizure... wouldnt really think twice of sexy lips. sexy jawline maybe. kidding.

i reckon all of you guys shud go! even the nonfreedivers.

basic first aid skills wud be sufficient i think. i.e. turn someone over when BO, put face out of water, take off noseclip and goggle or take off mask, protect airway by doing chin lift with/without jaw thrust and then stroke / blow the person's face to stimulate breathing while calling out him/her. depends i think on how out-of-it the person is... sometimes half a minute with face out of water is enough, sometimes need to take him/her out and lie him/her on the floor for a few minutes. take note of vital signs i.e. heartrate, respiratory rate and glasgow coma scale during and after BO, better to keep him/her lying down, so that the blood goes to the brain easier as opposed to sitting him/her up. if needed elevate feet. it would be reassuring to think that a swimming pool would have a tank of oxygen nearby. and i think the O2 is not a must must for recovery, but for a quicker recovery. right? i think.

CPR i think would be kinda further down the track. i would reckon its when someone did a negative dive, as in fully exhale and then hold breath, and then without anybody knowing accidentally breathed in water and BO for minutes and minutes. thats when the lungs will be filled with water, then needing CPR/tulip's sexy lips. if that happens, notify lifeguard/call ambulance a.s.a.p.

and also, if that almost happen, be aware of 'dry drowning'. its when someone accidentally breathed in some water, and then felt kinda alright everything fine and dandy, but only when he/she lies down do we see the effects. because when upright, the inhaled water pools to the bottom of the lung space and when lying down, the water spreads as the lung is flatter augmenting its interference with breathing.

so far, from the few few sessions i've been to, i've only seen samba and BO +/- laryngospasm. nobody needing CPR just yet.

correct me if i'm wrong, but a samba i think is the first line of defence before dying (peripheral shutdown to redirect blood to vital organs), then a BO (because theoretically, when someone BO, he/she will fall down to the ground, hence making the brain level with the heart making the heart easier to pump blood to the brain) and at the same time as BO i think a laryngospasm to close up the trachea so that water doesnt go in. all nature's way of protecting us.

you guys can be each other's medic. question, is a valid first aid cert vital for scubadiving/freediving?

so yeah woohoo how exciting you guys are getting together!

i'll be checking in to see the updates.

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2008, 11:15:12 AM »

1. kimseng
2. wild_card
3. johnny
4. mephisto
5. reen------>arrrrk!!!~~@~@~~ boink*boink*why my name suddenly appear here??? my hands are like sotong(cuttlefish hands) cannot stop moving one..sure break the rules one
6. sheila
7.
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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2008, 08:08:08 PM »

Gonna attempt to record the freedives.

1. kimseng
2. wild_card
3. johnny
4. mephisto
5. reen
6. sheila
7.
8

volunteer for time keeping and medic/rescue

1.w2 (surface)
2. clownfish (surface)
3.
4.

so any volunteers for inwater rescuer?
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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2008, 07:40:42 AM »


Gonna attempt to record the freedives.

1. kimseng
2. wild_card
3. johnny
4. mephisto
5. reen
6. sheila
7.
8

volunteer for time keeping and medic/rescue

1.w2 (surface)
2. clownfish (surface)
3. ATXdiver (spectator) :P
4.

so any volunteers for inwater rescuer?

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2008, 06:03:53 PM »


Gonna attempt to record the freedives.

1. kimseng
2. wild_card
3. johnny
4. mephisto
5. reen
6. sheila
7.
8

volunteer for time keeping and medic/rescue

1.w2 (surface)
2. clownfish (surface)
3. ATXdiver (spectator) :P
4.

so any volunteers for inwater rescuer?


can I come to watch u guys? just to be a kaypochii..


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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2008, 11:42:03 PM »


Gonna attempt to record the freedives.

1. kimseng
2. wild_card
3. johnny
4. mephisto
5. reen
6. sheila
7. Clairvoyant (depend on time ya...)
8

volunteer for time keeping and medic/rescue

1.w2 (surface)
2. clownfish (surface)
3. ATXdiver (spectator) :P
4.

so any volunteers for inwater rescuer?


can I come to watch u guys? just to be a kaypochii..


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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2008, 07:57:50 AM »


Gonna attempt to record the freedives.

1. kimseng
2. wild_card
3. johnny
4. mephisto
5. reen
6. sheila
7.
8

volunteer for time keeping and medic/rescue

1.w2 (surface)
2. clownfish (surface)
3. ATXdiver (spectator) :P
4.

so any volunteers for inwater rescuer?


can I come to watch u guys? just to be a kaypochii..




 u may come bro.... but don't forget to bring ur camera..... :P

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2008, 09:03:31 PM »

had a chat with abang mephisto yesterday, and he know of a place which has got a 50m pool. Its located somewhere in shah alam.

dis one must be a used minig pool coz if i'm not mistaken the deepest pool in the world also is only 30m++

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2008, 12:23:02 AM »

had a chat with abang mephisto yesterday, and he know of a place which has got a 50m pool. Its located somewhere in shah alam.

dis one must be a used minig pool coz if i'm not mistaken the deepest pool in the world also is only 30m++


yup. Tat vil b the Nemo 33. It's a 33m deep pool in Belgium.
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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2008, 09:00:38 AM »


dis one must be a used minig pool coz if i'm not mistaken the deepest pool in the world also is only 30m++


50m means length larr... the discipline listed do not require depth larr.

i have spoken to the dive centre responsible for the pool and have yet to come to a date. but the proposed ones are around early november.

so as it stands

Gonna attempt to record the freedives.

1. kimseng
2. wild_card
3. johnny
4. mephisto
5. reen
6. sheila
7. Clairvoyant (depend on time ya...)
8.
9.
10.

volunteer for time keeping and medic/rescue

1.w2 (surface medical support)
2. clownfish (surface medical support)
3.
4.

Spectator
1. ATXdiver
2. ery F


The inwater rescuer actually have the best seats, but nobody wants to volunteer  :( :(

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2008, 08:01:56 PM »

inwater rescue means u standby underwater wif full gears rite.. if can get discount for the tanks then i'm in hehehehe :D :D

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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2008, 08:38:29 PM »

bump..bump quys :D :D

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« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2008, 09:33:27 PM »

inwater rescue means u standby underwater wif full gears rite.. if can get discount for the tanks then i'm in hehehehe :D :D


It's best if u bring along an u/w cam for record proving  :D :D :D

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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2008, 07:57:42 PM »

inwater rescue means u standby underwater wif full gears rite.. if can get discount for the tanks then i'm in hehehehe :D :D


It's best if u bring along an u/w cam for record proving  :D :D :D

no problem one as long as can get discount for tanks :laughing11: :laughing11:

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Re: Recording Freedives
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2008, 02:29:49 PM »

Any updates on this event? Venue and time?  ;)