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Re: Whats your personal bit to environment?
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2008, 09:43:30 PM »

Spazm - i simply cannot believe you feel proud doing these things. I am not sure what you are trying to achieve by stating all this here, but it sure as hell makes you look idiotic.

Brace yourself to suffer my wrath....


Well..isn't it better to look idiotic...sound idiotic....than be an Idiot??..:)

Bring it on your wrath.....

Back to the topic...I honestly do not think I am contributing anything to the environment...every second I am alive...I actually think I put more stress to the environment more than ever....but...nonetheless...I do it unconsiously...e.g...the fuel guzzler we are driving around everyday....the chemicals we use to wash ourself..the car...the house...etc....

So ..it turn back to question of the thread itself...are we being pro-active?? or should we just go back and become cave dwellers...I think..the latter helps out the environment more..:P..

Just my 2 p.s.i. worth..



and people using electric car boosting about they are very environment friendly, err where they charge their car haa.... if using solar power totally okay la, but when u charge from your house.. so where the electric come from haa... the power plant and whta they using for electric haa... coal or turbine???? me dunno, me only sekolah pondok (religious school)

and those who want to do 'bit' to the environment, try to look at this thread http://malaysianunderwater.com/smff/index.php/topic,1935.0.html and help DiveIxus to get more people and dun just talk... err spazm, i like to be idiot but people still envy me la how..???

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Re: Whats your personal bit to environment?
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2008, 04:25:24 AM »

Hi snafu!! great to see your interest here.

http://www.umt.edu.my/turtle/2007Report.pdf

This is the report which is a good read and you can then access their site too.



Thanks for the information Nanda...well done there & keep it up....dont ever stop!!!

I find it very interesting & would like to know a bit more of how the funds been distributed for this efforts?....you know if we manage the funds properly there are so many things can be done.

Most of the conservation effort that I see are mainly for free diving & having fun...that explain of the so call on going conservation work that is not going anywhere till today  :laughing11:

I also see on & off conservation effort....you know the one that done for publicity but only once & is all done.

Masking behind conservation effort to make money is something that I see all the time.

It might take a long time to see results, but is all WORTH it!!!

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Re: Whats your personal bit to environment?
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2008, 06:32:20 PM »

How else do you get people on board if the conservation work isn't fun(ded) and simple to begin with?

The seriousness of the issue can slowly be conveyed and cascaded to everybody once they are willing to listen. And to get them to that stage where they are willing to listen, is to get them to be interested in the issue.

To get them interested, is by making them a part of something, and to get them involved, that would require 'incentives'.. in whatever form.

If its free dives, so be it. But if they are still not keen to carry on the conservation efforts even after going for those sponsored dives, it just shows the kind of principes these people live by, and the values they uphold.

We learn by these little downfalls, and we move on to the next batch of people who are more sincere to see that the environment is protected. Lets work with these little angels then.

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Re: Whats your personal bit to environment?
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2008, 07:47:35 PM »

How else do you get people on board if the conservation work isn't fun(ded) and simple to begin with?

The seriousness of the issue can slowly be conveyed and cascaded to everybody once they are willing to listen. And to get them to that stage where they are willing to listen, is to get them to be interested in the issue.

To get them interested, is by making them a part of something, and to get them involved, that would require 'incentives'.. in whatever form.

If its free dives, so be it. But if they are still not keen to carry on the conservation efforts even after going for those sponsored dives, it just shows the kind of principes these people live by, and the values they uphold.

We learn by these little downfalls, and we move on to the next batch of people who are more sincere to see that the environment is protected. Lets work with these little angels then.


Hey Little Angel...hope all goes well with Ur project.

Every single thing does help so keep it up & make it come true.

Lets hope there are more EcoDiver to give support towards the conservation issues.

Maybe U can put up a step by step guide of being conservation/eco divers  ;)

We have TT's...Pool session....which divers can pay for themself to hear more about being ecodiver.

Infact as is so important, divers can pay for their trip to help with conservation.

Do you need the EcoDiver card to be an eco diver or to learn eco diving?

Why cant the learning process be free  :laughing11: after all we want to see more EcoDiver.

Then again I dont contribute much when comes to conservation diving la...I just dive.

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Re: Whats your personal bit to environment?
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2008, 08:49:18 PM »

Can! If i happen to be at those TT sessions and there are eager ones who wanna know more about the process, I am willing to share it all.. That is why i posted the Perhentian Reef Check 2007 report last year.

The nauseating stories (fellow EcoBuddies actually felt slightly giddy conducting the survey inverted, heheheh), the quizzes, the pointing2 underwater, etc... I have the training materials so we can all take a look and learn  ;)

A lot of things can be learned through observation during our recreational dives... yes its true, you dont have to be an EcoDiver to dive in an environmentally-appropriate manner. Simple things like maintaining good buoyancy, implementing "no touch" policy, no lying down on corals when taking photos (tsk tsk), don't continously flash strobes until the puffers bloat, dont poke the frogfish to get it to pose for you, etc...  :P

But being an EcoDiver allows you do reef surveys to understand the health status of the reefs in a more systematic manner   :) :)


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Re: Whats your personal bit to environment?
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2008, 08:54:26 PM »

implementing "no touch" policy, no lying down on corals when taking photos (tsk tsk), don't continously flash strobes until the puffers bloat, dont poke the frogfish to get it to pose for you, etc...  :P


But like all good photographers, I do these things! How? well, not that I am any good at underwater photography but to see a frogfish swim in the open above me is priceless!  :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Whats your personal bit to environment?
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2008, 10:22:57 PM »

 :D :D :D   Guilty as charged! I presume you like to be groped and poked at, SD, but i'm sure the fishes aren't quite the sluts you envision them to be...  :D :D :D 

Leave them as they are la... a good photographer would be able to bring out the beauty in these creatures as they naturally appear..  ;)

One or two terrestrial wildlife photographers are infamous for a similar thing - where they trap wild animals, especially big cats (eg:clouded leopards) and provoke them so that when the cage is lifted and the cat shows its fangs and ferocity... its the greatest wildlife shot  :angry4:


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Re: Whats your personal bit to environment?
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2008, 01:33:43 PM »

Shafi, the EcoDiver stuff sound great. did some check on Scuba Zone but not much info.

How much is the course & how long? Is it all taught in a class room or dives required?

Is this what Julian is doing in Tioman??

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Re: Whats your personal bit to environment?
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2008, 04:25:25 PM »

:D :D :D   Guilty as charged! I presume you like to be groped and poked at, SD, but i'm sure the fishes aren't quite the sluts you envision them to be...  :D :D :D 

Leave them as they are la... a good photographer would be able to bring out the beauty in these creatures as they naturally appear..  ;)

One or two terrestrial wildlife photographers are infamous for a similar thing - where they trap wild animals, especially big cats (eg:clouded leopards) and provoke them so that when the cage is lifted and the cat shows its fangs and ferocity... its the greatest wildlife shot  :angry4:


Spazm taught me all these UW photo tricks. He said you wouldn't mind.