Author Topic: Sphygmomanometer andstethiscope. (Read 1225 times)

Mephisto the Heretic · « **on:** June 20, 2007, 04:44:29 PM »

Dear Dive Doc.

Hail!!!

mephisto family has recently aquired the 2 equipment above to monitor the blood pressure of family members and most importantly to see the progress of mother mephisto who is on high blood pressure medication.

The box, the sphygmomanometer, the stethiscope.

the family doctor has taught me how to use it but i have these questions:

1. do you need to close the hole on the back of the stethoscope when listening thru it?
2. sometimes i dont hear the pulse...am i suppose to put it on the arteri? please advice on stethoscope positioning.
3. the doctor says that the reading when you start to hear the pulse and the reading on the last pulse you hear is your blood pressure. for example 120/80. what is the normal range for blood pressure and what does it mean when the reading is above and below the normal reading?
4. please give tips and advice on the tecnique of using the above equipment.

John F SeaDemon · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2007, 05:19:20 PM »

Hmm...not using the digital ones from Omron? Would have been simpler.

You can actually feel the pulse...when you don't feel the pulse the first time as you let the pressure down, that's the systolic reading. The second time is the diastolic reading.

sheik · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2007, 05:30:00 PM »

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Hmm...not using the digital ones from Omron? Would have been simpler.

You can actually feel the pulse...when you don't feel the pulse the first time as you let the pressure down, that's the systolic reading. The second time is the diastolic reading.

Allo, SD. Since when you believe in digital gadgets, huh?
hahahahaa

Cher · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2007, 05:39:37 PM »

My dad has both this manual AND digital ones.. ermmm.. till today the manual one is sitting on the table collecting dust coz none of us non-medically trained people know how to use it. Use la the digital one, easier. Press button, press again, squezzy it goes and yelp in pain and wallah... the reading is there.

John F SeaDemon · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2007, 06:35:46 PM »

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Hmm...not using the digital ones from Omron? Would have been simpler.

You can actually feel the pulse...when you don't feel the pulse the first time as you let the pressure down, that's the systolic reading. The second time is the diastolic reading.

Allo, SD. Since when you believe in digital gadgets, huh?
hahahahaa

I don't..I'm just suggesting since he can't hear the pulse..heheh

Bones · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2007, 07:46:13 PM »

he family doctor has taught me how to use it but i have these questions:

1. do you need to close the hole on the back of the stethoscope when listening thru it?
2. sometimes i dont hear the pulse...am i suppose to put it on the arteri? please advice on stethoscope positioning.
3. the doctor says that the reading when you start to hear the pulse and the reading on the last pulse you hear is your blood pressure. for example 120/80. what is the normal range for blood pressure and what does it mean when the reading is above and below the normal reading?
4. please give tips and advice on the tecnique of using the above equipment.

Dear mephisto,

U should have gotten the digital one... easier but since u have this...
1. No need to close the hole but it actually has different usage. The stets has 2 side... the diaphragm (the flat surface) and the bell (the concave surface). They have different function on the type of sound we are trying to hear.

2. Position at above the artery- but the aim is to inflate the cuff to compress and occlude the artery 1st and slowly deflate (at the same time hear for the sounds of when the occlusion is 1st overcomed).... at thsi pressure it is the systolic pressure

Then you still listen and lower the pressure till there is no more sound- diastolic pressure. why it's like that will take me more than 1 post to explain... Over coffee is easier.. so next time when I'm back boleh la

3. Blood pressure depends on a few things: And the range varies according to age and sex... roughly 120/80 but older can have normal up to 140/90

LAST... bro get the digital onelah... yang ni you can get confused especially the diastolic pressure which you are supposed to hear a muffled sound before it totally disapears...
Digital- you mom can use on her own... just press the button

It is only about RM 250-350...

Hope that answers your Q's. Guess divedoc is busy...

IkanBilis · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2007, 08:46:13 PM »

Thanks for the lengthy explaination zzz, now I understand the concept better. One thing, your explaination has no mention of which body part we should wrap the thing around, and which part to listen to.

Someone may misunderstood the instruction and wrap it around the wrong body part... ;D ;D

Bones · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2007, 08:47:45 PM »

heheheh.....they might

Put the cuff around the arm and the stets at the elbow crease...

John F SeaDemon · « **Reply #8 on:** June 20, 2007, 09:06:25 PM »

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heheheh.....they might

Put the cuff around the arm and the stets at the elbow crease...

And preferably at chest level

Mephisto the Heretic · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2007, 02:49:00 PM »

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he family doctor has taught me how to use it but i have these questions:

1. do you need to close the hole on the back of the stethoscope when listening thru it?
2. sometimes i dont hear the pulse...am i suppose to put it on the arteri? please advice on stethoscope positioning.
3. the doctor says that the reading when you start to hear the pulse and the reading on the last pulse you hear is your blood pressure. for example 120/80. what is the normal range for blood pressure and what does it mean when the reading is above and below the normal reading?
4. please give tips and advice on the tecnique of using the above equipment.

Dear mephisto,

U should have gotten the digital one... easier but since u have this...
1. No need to close the hole but it actually has different usage. The stets has 2 side... the diaphragm (the flat surface) and the bell (the concave surface). They have different function on the type of sound we are trying to hear.

2. Position at above the artery- but the aim is to inflate the cuff to compress and occlude the artery 1st and slowly deflate (at the same time hear for the sounds of when the occlusion is 1st overcomed).... at thsi pressure it is the systolic pressure

Then you still listen and lower the pressure till there is no more sound- diastolic pressure. why it's like that will take me more than 1 post to explain... Over coffee is easier.. so next time when I'm back boleh la

3. Blood pressure depends on a few things: And the range varies according to age and sex... roughly 120/80 but older can have normal up to 140/90

LAST... bro get the digital onelah... yang ni you can get confused especially the diastolic pressure which you are supposed to hear a muffled sound before it totally disapears...
Digital- you mom can use on her own... just press the button

It is only about RM 250-350...

Hope that answers your Q's. Guess divedoc is busy...

Hello ZZZ.

Thanks.

Yes. i think we need to discus this futher over coffee.

i got the analog one because my doc recommended it over the digital one...more accurate he says.....and i am a S****R for analoge equipment and things that need a fair amount of skill to operate. analoge or digital..i still have to operate it for mother mephisto.

ok...i see that we need to discuss this LIVE .....mau minum apa?.....milo ais?....bila mau TT?

Bones · « **Reply #10 on:** June 21, 2007, 10:17:30 PM »

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Hello ZZZ.

Thanks.

Yes. i think we need to discus this futher over coffee.

i got the analog one because my doc recommended it over the digital one...more accurate he says.....and i am a S****R for analoge equipment and things that need a fair amount of skill to operate. analoge or digital..i still have to operate it for mother mephisto.

ok...i see that we need to discuss this LIVE .....mau minum apa?.....milo ais?....bila mau TT?

Hi bro... True analog is more accurate... but it's only accurate if the person reading it is competent... even after years of doin it occasionally I have difficulty in getting an accurate manual reading....

TT... boleh... next weekend kot.... will be back in KL... bring the gadgets and we'll have a practice session...

To others MUW forumers...
FREE BLOOD PRESSURE READING NEXT WEEK..... ;D ;D ;D

jgshuwei · « **Reply #11 on:** June 21, 2007, 11:55:28 PM »

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Hello ZZZ.

Thanks.

Yes. i think we need to discus this futher over coffee.

i got the analog one because my doc recommended it over the digital one...more accurate he says.....and i am a S****R for analoge equipment and things that need a fair amount of skill to operate. analoge or digital..i still have to operate it for mother mephisto.

ok...i see that we need to discuss this LIVE .....mau minum apa?.....milo ais?....bila mau TT?

Hi bro... True analog is more accurate... but it's only accurate if the person reading it is competent... even after years of doin it occasionally I have difficulty in getting an accurate manual reading....

TT... boleh... next weekend kot.... will be back in KL... bring the gadgets and we'll have a practice session...

To others MUW forumers...
FREE BLOOD PRESSURE READING NEXT WEEK..... ;D ;D ;D

I want...I want...
Anything free I want...

John F SeaDemon · « **Reply #12 on:** June 22, 2007, 12:41:59 AM »

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Hello ZZZ.

Thanks.

Yes. i think we need to discus this futher over coffee.

i got the analog one because my doc recommended it over the digital one...more accurate he says.....and i am a S****R for analoge equipment and things that need a fair amount of skill to operate. analoge or digital..i still have to operate it for mother mephisto.

ok...i see that we need to discuss this LIVE .....mau minum apa?.....milo ais?....bila mau TT?

Hi bro... True analog is more accurate... but it's only accurate if the person reading it is competent... even after years of doin it occasionally I have difficulty in getting an accurate manual reading....

TT... boleh... next weekend kot.... will be back in KL... bring the gadgets and we'll have a practice session...

To others MUW forumers...
FREE BLOOD PRESSURE READING NEXT WEEK..... ;D ;D ;D

I want...I want...
Anything free I want...

I just want the free Milo Ais

;D

Bones · « **Reply #13 on:** June 22, 2007, 02:08:00 PM »

Bro, I'll be back on next Friday till Sunday so bila2 la.... bagi advance warning la...

I nak milo ais, kueytiau goreng (penang style).... ;D ;D ;D
Sambil2 tu harap2 bolehlah ambil my MUW T-shirt....

Mephisto the Heretic · « **Reply #14 on:** June 22, 2007, 03:33:02 PM »

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Bro, I'll be back on next Friday till Sunday so bila2 la.... bagi advance warning la...

I nak milo ais, kueytiau goreng (penang style).... ;D ;D ;D
Sambil2 tu harap2 bolehlah ambil my MUW T-shirt....

Can. no problem. Can you make it on Friday night? 29/6/2007.

T shirt have to tell Lara Croft to bring it laa.

If you are okay with the dates we can make official TT and How To Take Blood Pressure and Free Blood Pressure Reading Session.

matpung · « **Reply #15 on:** June 22, 2007, 06:34:53 PM »

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Bro, I'll be back on next Friday till Sunday so bila2 la.... bagi advance warning la...

I nak milo ais, kueytiau goreng (penang style).... ;D ;D ;D
Sambil2 tu harap2 bolehlah ambil my MUW T-shirt....

Can. no problem. Can you make it on Friday night? 29/6/2007.

T shirt have to tell Lara Croft to bring it laa.

If you are okay with the dates we can make official TT and How To Take Blood Pressure and Free Blood Pressure Reading Session.

Yezzzzza ;D

Bones · « **Reply #16 on:** June 22, 2007, 07:07:07 PM »

Okie... but I'll come only after 8 la..... leaving Temerloh at 5pm

Where the TT?

Mephisto the Heretic · « **Reply #17 on:** June 25, 2007, 08:19:28 PM »

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Okie... but I'll come only after 8 la..... leaving Temerloh at 5pm

Where the TT?

if it is okay with you how bout we do the learning session in Rec N Tec so we can get some peace and quite and after that we can go makan dan minum (eat and drinnk) at hartamas square whey the got good kuew teow goreng?

what say?

Bones · « **Reply #18 on:** June 25, 2007, 08:45:13 PM »

No problem bro.... but till what time does it opens(Rec n Tec)?

GIve me a call if all confirmed. As I said will be there bout 8pm.

John F SeaDemon · « **Reply #19 on:** June 26, 2007, 06:48:11 AM »

Ah...Friday...I already have a date somewhere else 8-)

Mephisto the Heretic · « **Reply #20 on:** June 26, 2007, 07:54:57 PM »

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No problem bro.... but till what time does it opens(Rec n Tec)?

GIve me a call if all confirmed. As I said will be there bout 8pm.

i have spoken with samsul about this and he says its okay.

8 pm. rec n tec and dinner after that.

Bones · « **Reply #21 on:** June 26, 2007, 08:31:25 PM »

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Ah...Friday...I already have a date somewhere else 8-)

Ahhh SD... you always have dates on Fridays...

Mephisto... all ok on my side.... gimme a call... I'll send u a PM

John F SeaDemon · « **Reply #22 on:** June 26, 2007, 09:35:01 PM »

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Ah...Friday...I already have a date somewhere else 8-)

Ahhh SD... you always have dates on Fridays...

Mephisto... all ok on my side.... gimme a call... I'll send u a PM

What to do...they powder my stuff to make Viagra.

I'll see you as what we've planned la. You can test the effectiveness of my miracle stuff that P*izer's bought from me. ;D

ironore · « **Reply #23 on:** June 26, 2007, 10:43:18 PM »

wei i wanna join too... must check my blood pressure too lar dude

pap smear and mammogram check up included?

Bones · « **Reply #24 on:** June 26, 2007, 10:51:09 PM »

Jom la ironore...

SD..which part of u la they grind to make viagra..."ouch"

John F SeaDemon · « **Reply #25 on:** June 26, 2007, 10:52:17 PM »

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wei i wanna join too... must check my blood pressure too lar dude

pap smear and mammogram check up included?

pap smear and mammogram for you can be provided for free of charge

ironore · « **Reply #26 on:** June 26, 2007, 11:04:10 PM »

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wei i wanna join too... must check my blood pressure too lar dude

pap smear and mammogram check up included?

pap smear and mammogram for you can be provided for free of charge

aaaaa thank you thank you...

if thats the case then... I"M IN.. I'M IN!

LionFish · « **Reply #27 on:** July 22, 2007, 11:27:57 PM »

WAH! getting more and more technical!! not my bowl of rice!! give it a miss......don't really understand...... :-[ :-/

joe · « **Reply #28 on:** August 19, 2007, 10:25:59 AM »

Quote from: mephisto on June 20, 2007, 04:44:29 PM

Dear Dive Doc.

Hail!!!

mephisto family has recently aquired the 2 equipment above to monitor the blood pressure of family members and most importantly to see the progress of mother mephisto who is on high blood pressure medication.

The box, the sphygmomanometer, the stethiscope.

the family doctor has taught me how to use it but i have these questions:

1. do you need to close the hole on the back of the stethoscope when listening thru it?
2. sometimes i dont hear the pulse...am i suppose to put it on the arteri? please advice on stethoscope positioning.
3. the doctor says that the reading when you start to hear the pulse and the reading on the last pulse you hear is your blood pressure. for example 120/80. what is the normal range for blood pressure and what does it mean when the reading is above and below the normal reading?
4. please give tips and advice on the tecnique of using the above equipment.

herm..i think for the hole,u can twist the tube.i've tried before.then you can hear the beat,prefectly..if cant,think u might consider buying new one

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John F SeaDemon · « **Reply #29 on:** August 24, 2007, 12:32:08 AM »

Wow. Good advice. I think if I were to twist the tube and try listen, the patient would have tachycardia